Comments on: American Women Athletes Part Two: How intersex athletes are punished by the gender testing system

By: Atmel

Atmel — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:00:09 +0000

For Embololalia: do read the connents - "the given statement concern “COMPLETE ANDROGEN INSENSITIVITY SYNDROME” (cAIS) when androgenes of the genetic male do not act on body and brain." Do you think that male's organism don't have a physical advantage over female's? You are naive. Higher level of androgenes give more quantity of erythrocytes (which carry oxygen) and the energy begining 12-15 y.o. Also see Pubmed Tables of Comparison of male's and female's collegiate american records and so on

By: seelenlos

seelenlos — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:09:19 +0000

thanks for the hint to the aol article re: sarah gronert, didn't know that one yet (though the pundits quoted are partly almost as stupid as the title, "disorder", "condition", go away!) and included it in my stab at the topic. ps: justice for santhi soundarajan! ioc, oca, give santhi her medal back! NOW!!

By: Atmel

Atmel — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:24:18 +0000

I dare say the given statement concern “COMPLETE ANDROGEN INSENSITIVITY SYNDROME” (cAIS) when androgenes of the genetic male do not act on body and brain. They develops as typical women and really don’t have a physical advantage which has those who has normal androgene sensitivity. Females with adrenal glands cortex hypertrophy which secrete androgenes and kortisol has more physical advantage than females with cAIS.
see more: http://www.bsped.org.uk/patients/nick/CAIS.htm

By: Seth Owen

Seth Owen — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:52:17 +0000

(by the way, seriously, do read the articles. because they will state that there is NO scientific evidence that any intersex athlete has any advantage over their other competitors.)

I find this hard to believe. There is gender segregation in most sports because men have apparently inherent advantages in size and strength that would make mixed competition unfair. To the extent that an intersex athlete has male characteristics it would seem unfair to allow that person to compete against women who don’t have those advantages.
I understand that gender disorders bring difficult questions and that drawing a clear line is necessarily arbitrary, while nature doesn’t concern itself with definitions.
It would seem more fair on the whole that intersex athletes compete against male competitors rather than females.

By: shah8

shah8 — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:18:10 +0000

nbc sports is reporting that she has testes in place of ovaries.

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links for 2009-09-09 « Embololalia — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:05:34 +0000

[...] American Women Athletes Part Two: How intersex athletes are punished by the gender testing system Finally, have you noticed something with these athletes so far? One of their biggest problems come when they beat their opponents…and the opponents promptly accuse them of being men. (by the way, seriously, do read the articles. because they will state that there is NO scientific evidence that any intersex athlete has any advantage over their other competitors.) (tags: gender biology sport) [...]

By: unusualmusic

unusualmusic — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:53:11 +0000

yes. they stopped requiring it in 1999 I think but will do it if concerns are raised. China for instance had a lab set up for this purpose.

By: Atmel

Atmel — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 12:55:17 +0000

There exists more than two sexes. It is necessary to take into account some factors which change genetic or gonad’s sex, namely also a hormone sex. The women having inherent hyperplasia of cortex of adrenal glands (it lead to increased levels of androgenes) have a male’s body constitution and have the reduced female sexual attributes. So, the levels of testosterone about 6 nanomol/litres at female weightlifters were found out, though the norm is 0.6-3.1 nmol/litres. Such women in fact are not the females, and also represent intersexual deviant forms.

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Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:34:04 +0000

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By: LDR

LDR — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 14:59:09 +0000

Thanks for writing this. I read somewhere that the Olympics no longer requires compulsory gender verification (probably because it doesn’t really “prove” anything.) Is that true?