Comments on: I’m about to be a jerk on the Internet or RaceFail Goes To WorldCon http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/12/im-about-to-be-a-jerk-on-the-internet-or-racefail-goes-to-worldcon/ Race, Politics, Gender, Sexuality, Anger Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:10:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Zahra http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/12/im-about-to-be-a-jerk-on-the-internet-or-racefail-goes-to-worldcon/comment-page-1/#comment-18997 Zahra Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:17:29 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.com/?p=1022#comment-18997 I'm glad to see that you're taking the road that's best for you and your life, but I did want to second Momsomniac above, and say I'd love to see a post on why making PoCs villains in epic fantasies is a bad idea. This is one of my personal bugbears, and I'd love to read that piece. And recommend that others do. May you have the energy and the wisdom to take care of yourself first, and write those thoughts up at the right time. I’m glad to see that you’re taking the road that’s best for you and your life, but I did want to second Momsomniac above, and say I’d love to see a post on why making PoCs villains in epic fantasies is a bad idea.

This is one of my personal bugbears, and I’d love to read that piece. And recommend that others do. May you have the energy and the wisdom to take care of yourself first, and write those thoughts up at the right time.

]]> By: Bart http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/12/im-about-to-be-a-jerk-on-the-internet-or-racefail-goes-to-worldcon/comment-page-1/#comment-18801 Bart Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:14:33 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.com/?p=1022#comment-18801 Like Kat (above), my wife and I were at that panel. We both physically cringed as soon as we heard the words "I don't see race." As you said, the panel was not at all what we'd expected or hoped for, although in retrospect it seems like maybe we should have expected it. Like Kat (above), my wife and I were at that panel. We both physically cringed as soon as we heard the words “I don’t see race.” As you said, the panel was not at all what we’d expected or hoped for, although in retrospect it seems like maybe we should have expected it.

]]> By: Kat http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/12/im-about-to-be-a-jerk-on-the-internet-or-racefail-goes-to-worldcon/comment-page-1/#comment-18347 Kat Sun, 16 Aug 2009 07:24:01 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.com/?p=1022#comment-18347 Just wanted to say that I attended this panel and thought you were right on with the comments. I was a little dismayed that the discussion got derailed into Race 101; wish there were some way of panelists meeting in advance and maybe...ah...talking stuff over with the clueless? Not sure what a better way to handle this would have been, but Kate did a good job with the moderation. Just wanted to say that I attended this panel and thought you were right on with the comments. I was a little dismayed that the discussion got derailed into Race 101; wish there were some way of panelists meeting in advance and maybe…ah…talking stuff over with the clueless? Not sure what a better way to handle this would have been, but Kate did a good job with the moderation.

]]> By: karnythia http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/12/im-about-to-be-a-jerk-on-the-internet-or-racefail-goes-to-worldcon/comment-page-1/#comment-18254 karnythia Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:30:00 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.com/?p=1022#comment-18254 It was great. If that had been my last panel I would probably be raving about the wonderful WorldCon programming. It was great. If that had been my last panel I would probably be raving about the wonderful WorldCon programming.

]]> By: rona http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/12/im-about-to-be-a-jerk-on-the-internet-or-racefail-goes-to-worldcon/comment-page-1/#comment-18186 rona Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:00:36 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.com/?p=1022#comment-18186 This is frickin' brilliant...especially: “I can treat you with some semblance of respect as long as I ignore the color of your skin. If you force me to see you as a whole person then you’ve brought my bigotry on yourself and it isn’t my fault. It’s yours for being so extraordinarily of color. Because I can’t handle the possibility that your reality is informed by experiences that I don’t share.” Kudos to you for being brave and truthful. There've been many instances where I could've said exactly that quote above and didn't have the words to do so. This is frickin’ brilliant…especially: “I can treat you with some semblance of respect as long as I ignore the color of your skin. If you force me to see you as a whole person then you’ve brought my bigotry on yourself and it isn’t my fault. It’s yours for being so extraordinarily of color. Because I can’t handle the possibility that your reality is informed by experiences that I don’t share.”

Kudos to you for being brave and truthful. There’ve been many instances where I could’ve said exactly that quote above and didn’t have the words to do so.

]]> By: Ellid http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/12/im-about-to-be-a-jerk-on-the-internet-or-racefail-goes-to-worldcon/comment-page-1/#comment-18159 Ellid Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:07:15 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.com/?p=1022#comment-18159 Both Ms. "I am a spoiled, whiny, entitled white princess and you're being meeeean to me" Lamplighter* and her husband, Mr. "Buttsex between men is ICKY and against NATURAL LAW and Vulcans would be Catholics if they had a church"* Wright come across as prime examples of <i>Homo Bigotus Americanus.</i> As such, I propose that they be gently studied by kindly scientists as a means to figure out exactly why they are the way they are, and then use their antibodies to inoculate the rest of us.*** And no, you're neither a jerk nor a fool. You are a very wise woman with a lot more self-control than I have, since I likely would have started screaming incoherently at this moron and been thrown out of the con after the "pitch black" comment. *I refuse, REFUSE to believe that this is her birth name. It is way too close to something a fifteen year old comes up with in a D&D game. **This completely ignores the facts that a) Vulcans as portrayed in Star Trek do indeed seem to have a religion that suits them just fine, and b) there are so many inconsistencies in the Bible as a whole and Catholic teaching in specific that Surak would pee himself laughing. ***A Star Trek plot that pretty blatantly shat on the Catholic church's stance on birth control. This relevant solely because I'm so bewildered by the whole "Vulcans would be Catholics if they had a church" nonsense. Both Ms. “I am a spoiled, whiny, entitled white princess and you’re being meeeean to me” Lamplighter* and her husband, Mr. “Buttsex between men is ICKY and against NATURAL LAW and Vulcans would be Catholics if they had a church”* Wright come across as prime examples of Homo Bigotus Americanus. As such, I propose that they be gently studied by kindly scientists as a means to figure out exactly why they are the way they are, and then use their antibodies to inoculate the rest of us.***

And no, you’re neither a jerk nor a fool. You are a very wise woman with a lot more self-control than I have, since I likely would have started screaming incoherently at this moron and been thrown out of the con after the “pitch black” comment.

*I refuse, REFUSE to believe that this is her birth name. It is way too close to something a fifteen year old comes up with in a D&D game.

**This completely ignores the facts that a) Vulcans as portrayed in Star Trek do indeed seem to have a religion that suits them just fine, and b) there are so many inconsistencies in the Bible as a whole and Catholic teaching in specific that Surak would pee himself laughing.

***A Star Trek plot that pretty blatantly shat on the Catholic church’s stance on birth control. This relevant solely because I’m so bewildered by the whole “Vulcans would be Catholics if they had a church” nonsense.

]]> By: Elleesttrois http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/12/im-about-to-be-a-jerk-on-the-internet-or-racefail-goes-to-worldcon/comment-page-1/#comment-18157 Elleesttrois Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:52:51 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.com/?p=1022#comment-18157 There's an app for that. It'll clean the racism right off like new. Billy Mays sold it to me. ;) There’s an app for that. It’ll clean the racism right off like new. Billy Mays sold it to me. ;)

]]> By: Elleesttrois http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/12/im-about-to-be-a-jerk-on-the-internet-or-racefail-goes-to-worldcon/comment-page-1/#comment-18155 Elleesttrois Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:51:44 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.com/?p=1022#comment-18155 This person was a panelist? I'm sorry you had to deal w/ that. I periodically run into that carp and it's just mentally and spiritually draining. Wishing you better times ahead...Elle This person was a panelist? I’m sorry you had to deal w/ that. I periodically run into that carp and it’s just mentally and spiritually draining. Wishing you better times ahead…Elle

]]> By: Julie http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/12/im-about-to-be-a-jerk-on-the-internet-or-racefail-goes-to-worldcon/comment-page-1/#comment-18112 Julie Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:12:05 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.com/?p=1022#comment-18112 What happened during the Sunday morning panel with John Scalzi? I've tried looking it up online, but haven't had any success. What happened during the Sunday morning panel with John Scalzi? I’ve tried looking it up online, but haven’t had any success.

]]> By: brownstocking http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/12/im-about-to-be-a-jerk-on-the-internet-or-racefail-goes-to-worldcon/comment-page-1/#comment-17831 brownstocking Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:00:52 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.com/?p=1022#comment-17831 <3 this. Agreed (this is my day job). Who's pouring? LOL <3 this.

Agreed (this is my day job). Who's pouring?

LOL

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