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		<title>By: Shauna Roberts</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/02/intersectionality/comment-page-1/#comment-18076</link>
		<dc:creator>Shauna Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this thought-provoking post. I&#039;ve thought about these issues before, but not with the clarity or depth you brought to them here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this thought-provoking post. I&#8217;ve thought about these issues before, but not with the clarity or depth you brought to them here.</p>
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		<title>By: Creating Better Magazines (and Anthologies) &#124; Sci Fi SoundTrack</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/02/intersectionality/comment-page-1/#comment-17298</link>
		<dc:creator>Creating Better Magazines (and Anthologies) &#124; Sci Fi SoundTrack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] other week I wrote a post about Intersectionality. If you don’t know what that is, I suggest you go read. In that post I talk about how oppressions [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] other week I wrote a post about Intersectionality. If you don’t know what that is, I suggest you go read. In that post I talk about how oppressions [...]</p>
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		<title>By: racismreview.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Racism Link Roundup</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/02/intersectionality/comment-page-1/#comment-16027</link>
		<dc:creator>racismreview.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Racism Link Roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Angry Black Woman does an excellent job taking on the issue of intersectionality and the fact that it&#8217;s so rarely addressed. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Angry Black Woman does an excellent job taking on the issue of intersectionality and the fact that it&#8217;s so rarely addressed. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/02/intersectionality/comment-page-1/#comment-15960</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@harpy

Oh yes *salient* is definitely a better word.  In an interaction with the police, my race is more likely to be salient than my other identities.  At my tech job my gender is usually the salient factor that affects how I&#039;m treated, but race definitely enters into it as well.  My class, educational background and sexual orientation, don&#039;t really enter into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@harpy</p>
<p>Oh yes *salient* is definitely a better word.  In an interaction with the police, my race is more likely to be salient than my other identities.  At my tech job my gender is usually the salient factor that affects how I&#8217;m treated, but race definitely enters into it as well.  My class, educational background and sexual orientation, don&#8217;t really enter into it.</p>
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		<title>By: harpy</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/02/intersectionality/comment-page-1/#comment-15910</link>
		<dc:creator>harpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 19:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post and discussion.

&quot;I also think one thing about intersectionality, is that sometimes one aspect of identity may be prioritized over another. Like, when it comes to how I interact with the police, my race is usually more of a factor than my gender.&quot; 

It&#039;s not so much that one is prioritized over another, but that one identity may be more salient in particular situations than another. For example, being black and male are intersectional identities when it comes to how people are viewed/treated by the police, but I would guess that for black women, it&#039;s the race that is more salient than the gender in those kinds of interactions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post and discussion.</p>
<p>&#8220;I also think one thing about intersectionality, is that sometimes one aspect of identity may be prioritized over another. Like, when it comes to how I interact with the police, my race is usually more of a factor than my gender.&#8221; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not so much that one is prioritized over another, but that one identity may be more salient in particular situations than another. For example, being black and male are intersectional identities when it comes to how people are viewed/treated by the police, but I would guess that for black women, it&#8217;s the race that is more salient than the gender in those kinds of interactions.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/02/intersectionality/comment-page-1/#comment-15831</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s more complicated than prioritizing race activism over gender activism.  I&#039;m speaking for myself, but I know other people had simliar thoughts on this issue.

Once I heard about Neo_Prodigy&#039;s behavior, I still participated in foc_u because it was unclear to me if Neo_Prodigy had a one off freak out, or if this was part of a pattern of sexist behavior on his part.  If it was a one off he was being defensive about, then I felt he could be educated, persuaded to apologize, and supporting foc_u was something I could do.  If it was a pattern of behavior, then supporting foc_u was a problem for me.

Neo_Prodigy initially dodged comments in ways that made me think this was an one off bad behavior situation that he was ashamed or embarassed of.  Certainly when I ham pissed off I have made comments that were less than ideal.

However (after the &quot;shattering the silence&quot; event) it became clear to me that he was not ashamed of what he said an did.  He deleted comments I made in in the foc_u community, and responded in an unofrtunate way (I copy and pasted what was deleted here: http://sparkymonster.livejournal.com/329351.html)


I also think one thing about intersectionality, is that sometimes one aspect of identity may be prioritized over another.  Like, when it comes to how I interact with the police, my race is usually more of a factor than my gender.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s more complicated than prioritizing race activism over gender activism.  I&#8217;m speaking for myself, but I know other people had simliar thoughts on this issue.</p>
<p>Once I heard about Neo_Prodigy&#8217;s behavior, I still participated in foc_u because it was unclear to me if Neo_Prodigy had a one off freak out, or if this was part of a pattern of sexist behavior on his part.  If it was a one off he was being defensive about, then I felt he could be educated, persuaded to apologize, and supporting foc_u was something I could do.  If it was a pattern of behavior, then supporting foc_u was a problem for me.</p>
<p>Neo_Prodigy initially dodged comments in ways that made me think this was an one off bad behavior situation that he was ashamed or embarassed of.  Certainly when I ham pissed off I have made comments that were less than ideal.</p>
<p>However (after the &#8220;shattering the silence&#8221; event) it became clear to me that he was not ashamed of what he said an did.  He deleted comments I made in in the foc_u community, and responded in an unofrtunate way (I copy and pasted what was deleted here: <a href="http://sparkymonster.livejournal.com/329351.html" rel="nofollow">http://sparkymonster.livejournal.com/329351.html</a>)</p>
<p>I also think one thing about intersectionality, is that sometimes one aspect of identity may be prioritized over another.  Like, when it comes to how I interact with the police, my race is usually more of a factor than my gender.</p>
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		<title>By: Zahra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zahra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 19:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post, ABW. Thank you for writing and sharing it.

I strive to bear these things in mind in my own work. It is hard to face again and again your own capacity for failure.

I also struggle against projecting my own experiences with oppression onto other groups. Because my most stigmatized identity is one that gets shat on from both the mainstream and from my own community&#039;s internal policing, I often identify more quickly and completely with people in comparable situations. I am actively working on preventing that from being a blind spot that keeps me from supporting people struggling against very different kinds of oppression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post, ABW. Thank you for writing and sharing it.</p>
<p>I strive to bear these things in mind in my own work. It is hard to face again and again your own capacity for failure.</p>
<p>I also struggle against projecting my own experiences with oppression onto other groups. Because my most stigmatized identity is one that gets shat on from both the mainstream and from my own community&#8217;s internal policing, I often identify more quickly and completely with people in comparable situations. I am actively working on preventing that from being a blind spot that keeps me from supporting people struggling against very different kinds of oppression.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/02/intersectionality/comment-page-1/#comment-15613</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an activist and advocate for survivors of domestic violence and a volunteer for an organization that services these survivors as well as survivors of sexual assault.  One of my biggest stumbling blocks that I come across is the prevalence of racism, gender bias, and cultural insensitivity as it relates others working with these survivors.  In short, I see a lot of very well-meaning people fail at a massive level for not understanding the cultural barriers that impede someone reaching out for help, for not realizing their own racial biases are playing a part in their ability to behave compassionately.  Then I get very angry.  Domestic violence carries enough of a public stigma of shame without also leaving part of its survivor population feeling they aren&#039;t as deserving anyone&#039;s support.  Power and control oppression within relationships aren&#039;t any more or less deserving action because of the color of the victim&#039;s skin, what language is spoken in the home, or what anyone&#039;s profession is.  I truly wish I could get people to understand this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an activist and advocate for survivors of domestic violence and a volunteer for an organization that services these survivors as well as survivors of sexual assault.  One of my biggest stumbling blocks that I come across is the prevalence of racism, gender bias, and cultural insensitivity as it relates others working with these survivors.  In short, I see a lot of very well-meaning people fail at a massive level for not understanding the cultural barriers that impede someone reaching out for help, for not realizing their own racial biases are playing a part in their ability to behave compassionately.  Then I get very angry.  Domestic violence carries enough of a public stigma of shame without also leaving part of its survivor population feeling they aren&#8217;t as deserving anyone&#8217;s support.  Power and control oppression within relationships aren&#8217;t any more or less deserving action because of the color of the victim&#8217;s skin, what language is spoken in the home, or what anyone&#8217;s profession is.  I truly wish I could get people to understand this.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Jasper</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/02/intersectionality/comment-page-1/#comment-15606</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Jasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outside of anti-racism or anti-sexism, I think there&#039;s a trend in volunteer organizations (even online communities) for people with big egos to end up running things.  From my perspective, it&#039;s easy and helpful for me to cop to fucking up on occasion, but I don&#039;t have an ego invested in being pristine and free from mistakes.  I think people who end up running volunteer organizations sometimes have a bit of a messiah complex.

I pretty much instantly mistrust anyone who presents themselves as fail-free.  For one thing, I expect that they see the world in binary &quot;people who fail&quot; and &quot;me&quot; terms, and there&#039;s not much point in being close to people who&#039;re like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outside of anti-racism or anti-sexism, I think there&#8217;s a trend in volunteer organizations (even online communities) for people with big egos to end up running things.  From my perspective, it&#8217;s easy and helpful for me to cop to fucking up on occasion, but I don&#8217;t have an ego invested in being pristine and free from mistakes.  I think people who end up running volunteer organizations sometimes have a bit of a messiah complex.</p>
<p>I pretty much instantly mistrust anyone who presents themselves as fail-free.  For one thing, I expect that they see the world in binary &#8220;people who fail&#8221; and &#8220;me&#8221; terms, and there&#8217;s not much point in being close to people who&#8217;re like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2009/08/02/intersectionality/comment-page-1/#comment-15593</link>
		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It broke my heart how many of my friends told me that they were participating in foc_u anyway, because race activism was more important than calling that guy out on what he had said. As if gender activism can be separated, as if it is ok to sweep sexism and hateful slurs under the rug as long as someone agrees with one&#039;s activism along another vector.

I couldn&#039;t have participated anyway, but it made me a little ill that I saw so few people commenting on it. 

Also, Nick is culturally and ethnically Greek, it is a big part of his identity, and I&#039;m not entirely sure labeling him white is /quite/ accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It broke my heart how many of my friends told me that they were participating in foc_u anyway, because race activism was more important than calling that guy out on what he had said. As if gender activism can be separated, as if it is ok to sweep sexism and hateful slurs under the rug as long as someone agrees with one&#8217;s activism along another vector.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t have participated anyway, but it made me a little ill that I saw so few people commenting on it. </p>
<p>Also, Nick is culturally and ethnically Greek, it is a big part of his identity, and I&#8217;m not entirely sure labeling him white is /quite/ accurate.</p>
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