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		<title>By: Muhammad</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2008/12/09/blackbird-browser-because-the-internet-isnt-black-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-11036</link>
		<dc:creator>Muhammad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a patch only to compensate for racism  or other daily challenges to the minority.  There needs to be more integration of black (and other) culture among everyone.  Ideas like this only strengthen segregation.  The general public is often viewed as white people, so a WhiteFox would be immediately viewed as racist.  I lived in a town of 500,000, 90% Hispanic.  The general public is not white.  What about an AsianFox?  We need to stop fueling segregation... work on the source of the problem by, for instance, asking Google to allow customization of searches for any ethnicity, age, and gender.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a patch only to compensate for racism  or other daily challenges to the minority.  There needs to be more integration of black (and other) culture among everyone.  Ideas like this only strengthen segregation.  The general public is often viewed as white people, so a WhiteFox would be immediately viewed as racist.  I lived in a town of 500,000, 90% Hispanic.  The general public is not white.  What about an AsianFox?  We need to stop fueling segregation&#8230; work on the source of the problem by, for instance, asking Google to allow customization of searches for any ethnicity, age, and gender.</p>
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		<title>By: urbandecae</title>
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		<dc:creator>urbandecae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally don&#039;t like BlackBird because it&#039;s gaudy and cumbersome. When I heard &quot;BlackBird&quot; I immediately thought of the stealth fighter, and thought it&#039;d be sleek, but I got an interface that was chunky and annoying. The chrome at the top take up like a third of the screen. I&#039;m just fine with AnyColor for FireFox, thank you. I get the whole &quot;trying to get African-Americans online&quot; thing, but I think they took the wrong path.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally don&#8217;t like BlackBird because it&#8217;s gaudy and cumbersome. When I heard &#8220;BlackBird&#8221; I immediately thought of the stealth fighter, and thought it&#8217;d be sleek, but I got an interface that was chunky and annoying. The chrome at the top take up like a third of the screen. I&#8217;m just fine with AnyColor for FireFox, thank you. I get the whole &#8220;trying to get African-Americans online&#8221; thing, but I think they took the wrong path.</p>
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		<title>By: Lala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use a number of browsers. I&#039;m Hispanic I&#039;d use spanish language targeted browsers, what the big deal? Just another option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use a number of browsers. I&#8217;m Hispanic I&#8217;d use spanish language targeted browsers, what the big deal? Just another option.</p>
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		<title>By: opit</title>
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		<dc:creator>opit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The browser disregarding instructions to follow your preferences sang out &#039;Malware&#039; loud and clear to me.

If a getting on WASP can put in two cents worth...Google allows one to choose search parameters for a custom browser.
 I share finds with friends via Del.icio.us links and Google Reader. The social networking sites trade info back-and-forth all the time.
http://delicious.com/OPIT/black
That is a &#039;tag&#039; after OPIT. The index can also be searched in friends&#039; files. Click on tag options on the upper right.
I can also access friends&#039; choices on Google Reader.
Educators and scientists have blazed a trail of search options that just needs to be known.

Clipmarks is interesting, and StumbleUpon.

There may well be a use for &#039;black news&#039;; that browser doesn&#039;t sound like it is a solution I&#039;d use, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The browser disregarding instructions to follow your preferences sang out &#8216;Malware&#8217; loud and clear to me.</p>
<p>If a getting on WASP can put in two cents worth&#8230;Google allows one to choose search parameters for a custom browser.<br />
 I share finds with friends via Del.icio.us links and Google Reader. The social networking sites trade info back-and-forth all the time.<br />
<a href="http://delicious.com/OPIT/black" rel="nofollow">http://delicious.com/OPIT/black</a><br />
That is a &#8216;tag&#8217; after OPIT. The index can also be searched in friends&#8217; files. Click on tag options on the upper right.<br />
I can also access friends&#8217; choices on Google Reader.<br />
Educators and scientists have blazed a trail of search options that just needs to be known.</p>
<p>Clipmarks is interesting, and StumbleUpon.</p>
<p>There may well be a use for &#8216;black news&#8217;; that browser doesn&#8217;t sound like it is a solution I&#8217;d use, however.</p>
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		<title>By: the angry black woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>the angry black woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had not heard that segment!  I wish they had asked me to speak on the topic, because I would have definitely brought it up.

All of the good things they mention about the browser, including that search thing, could have all been accomplished without a browser, though.  i keep coming up against this fact -- why is the software necessary?  No one has yet given me a compelling reason.  And with the ads being there, the only thing i can come up with is that there&#039;s something going on in the code itself that benefits the people who made it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had not heard that segment!  I wish they had asked me to speak on the topic, because I would have definitely brought it up.</p>
<p>All of the good things they mention about the browser, including that search thing, could have all been accomplished without a browser, though.  i keep coming up against this fact &#8212; why is the software necessary?  No one has yet given me a compelling reason.  And with the ads being there, the only thing i can come up with is that there&#8217;s something going on in the code itself that benefits the people who made it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m coming late to this discussion -- I only just heard about Blackbird the other night on News &amp; Notes, and I haven&#039;t had a chance to look around for discussion about it &#039;til now.  I was pleased to see this entry of yours come up as result #5 in a search for [blackbird browser].

Interesting points about ads and such. Did you hear the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98202744&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;News &amp; Notes segment&lt;/a&gt; in which Farai Chideya spoke with Blackbird CEO Ed Young and Media Assassin blogger Harry Allen? It seemed to me (from my perspective of having not previously heard of the browser or any of the discussion about it) that Chideya was trying to get Young and Allen to disagree about the browser, but the two of them kept agreeing that it was a good thing. I found their arguments pretty compelling; if I remember right, they were discussing it in terms of things like helping relevant search results appear near the beginning of the results list (which I assumed they did using something like Google&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/coop/cse/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;custom search engines&lt;/a&gt;). But nobody mentioned the ads at all; I&#039;m now wondering whether the discussion would&#039;ve gone differently if someone had brought up that aspect.

They also mentioned the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitebirdbrowser.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;White Bird browser&lt;/a&gt; (&quot;A Browser for White People&quot;) in passing; from their description, it sounded (intentionally) pretty funny, but I haven&#039;t had a chance to look at the site yet.

...The &lt;a href=&quot;http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081209-blackbird-browser-reaches-out-to-african-american-community.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ars Technica review&lt;/a&gt; of Blackbird also doesn&#039;t mention the ads; I wonder what&#039;s up with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m coming late to this discussion &#8212; I only just heard about Blackbird the other night on News &amp; Notes, and I haven&#8217;t had a chance to look around for discussion about it &#8217;til now.  I was pleased to see this entry of yours come up as result #5 in a search for [blackbird browser].</p>
<p>Interesting points about ads and such. Did you hear the <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98202744" rel="nofollow">News &amp; Notes segment</a> in which Farai Chideya spoke with Blackbird CEO Ed Young and Media Assassin blogger Harry Allen? It seemed to me (from my perspective of having not previously heard of the browser or any of the discussion about it) that Chideya was trying to get Young and Allen to disagree about the browser, but the two of them kept agreeing that it was a good thing. I found their arguments pretty compelling; if I remember right, they were discussing it in terms of things like helping relevant search results appear near the beginning of the results list (which I assumed they did using something like Google&#8217;s <a href="http://www.google.com/coop/cse/" rel="nofollow">custom search engines</a>). But nobody mentioned the ads at all; I&#8217;m now wondering whether the discussion would&#8217;ve gone differently if someone had brought up that aspect.</p>
<p>They also mentioned the <a href="http://www.whitebirdbrowser.com/" rel="nofollow">White Bird browser</a> (&#8220;A Browser for White People&#8221;) in passing; from their description, it sounded (intentionally) pretty funny, but I haven&#8217;t had a chance to look at the site yet.</p>
<p>&#8230;The <a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081209-blackbird-browser-reaches-out-to-african-american-community.html" rel="nofollow">Ars Technica review</a> of Blackbird also doesn&#8217;t mention the ads; I wonder what&#8217;s up with that.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBlackCritic</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheBlackCritic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read the comments so far.  It&#039;s an interesting variation of opinion on the subject of the new browser.  I installed it several days ago, and though I haven&#039;t had the &quot;take over&quot; problem ABW experienced, I&#039;ve noticed a few things lacking in a few areas.  I haven&#039;t formed an opinion on the subject, either way.  I still use Firefox and BlackBird daily, sometimes interchangeably, so I&#039;m sure I will be able to determine my level of comfort soon.

And while &quot;ben&quot; seemingly laughed at the essay posted at www.racismreview.com, i walked away, after reading it, with a far more reasoned response.  I actually agree with the points the writer makes.

I will continue to use BlackBird off and on unless something outrageous happens like the report ABW shared.  I&#039;m not down with programs that hijack.

But I do have a question for the community here:  How exactly do you guys and gals go about finding new and interesting black websites (for those who bother to do so, of course)?  Is there a more convenient way of accomplishing this goal outside of the usual methods--Google, link follow, social networks, word of mouth, etc.?

I&#039;m not sure how high up this is on the priority list for the Blackbird browser, but if it can make discovering new blogs and websites from African Americans--further exposing me to interesting and thought provoking perspectives--then, at least for me, it&#039;s worth it&#039;s weight in gold.  Until then, I&#039;m prepared to wait before I make a firm stance on Blackbird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read the comments so far.  It&#8217;s an interesting variation of opinion on the subject of the new browser.  I installed it several days ago, and though I haven&#8217;t had the &#8220;take over&#8221; problem ABW experienced, I&#8217;ve noticed a few things lacking in a few areas.  I haven&#8217;t formed an opinion on the subject, either way.  I still use Firefox and BlackBird daily, sometimes interchangeably, so I&#8217;m sure I will be able to determine my level of comfort soon.</p>
<p>And while &#8220;ben&#8221; seemingly laughed at the essay posted at <a href="http://www.racismreview.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.racismreview.com</a>, i walked away, after reading it, with a far more reasoned response.  I actually agree with the points the writer makes.</p>
<p>I will continue to use BlackBird off and on unless something outrageous happens like the report ABW shared.  I&#8217;m not down with programs that hijack.</p>
<p>But I do have a question for the community here:  How exactly do you guys and gals go about finding new and interesting black websites (for those who bother to do so, of course)?  Is there a more convenient way of accomplishing this goal outside of the usual methods&#8211;Google, link follow, social networks, word of mouth, etc.?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how high up this is on the priority list for the Blackbird browser, but if it can make discovering new blogs and websites from African Americans&#8211;further exposing me to interesting and thought provoking perspectives&#8211;then, at least for me, it&#8217;s worth it&#8217;s weight in gold.  Until then, I&#8217;m prepared to wait before I make a firm stance on Blackbird.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 05:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh. It&#039;s just not very well executed. And as usual, folks underestimate the presence of blacks on the web and tech savvy as a whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh. It&#8217;s just not very well executed. And as usual, folks underestimate the presence of blacks on the web and tech savvy as a whole.</p>
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		<title>By: the angry black woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>the angry black woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derrick,

You seem to have missed the point.  It never ceases to amaze me how often that happens in this discussion.

The objection to BlackBird isn&#039;t: OMG there shouldn&#039;t be things aimed at just black people!

Well, not from me and any non-racists.  The objection is that the concept is dumb.  Why do Black people need a separate piece of software to access the internet?  How does using this browser make the internet better for black people?  It doesn&#039;t.

Now, if you want me to support a black business, I am (usually) there.  A bookstore aimed at black people?  Why yes, I am all about that.  But what if you opened your bookstore and someone came in and said &quot;You know, you should use my special cash register for black people.  It takes their money the same as a regular cash register, but it&#039;s all black instead of beige.  Also, it will flash ads at them while showing how much they should pay.&quot;  You would tell that person to get the fuck out of your store, wouldn&#039;t you?

Or how about, when you&#039;re building the store, if someone came along and said &quot;You need these special shelves to put black books on.  they&#039;re designed for black people who read black books.  Also, you need a special door for black people to walk through.  Whenever it opens it plays hip hop.&quot;

You would find that stupid as well, wouldn&#039;t you?

Of course, you may decide to buy your hardware or other equipment from a black-owned business, but the shelves and doors and cash registers and computers and whatever else you buy, regardless of the race of those who sold them, would not be in some way different because the seller is black or white or asian or whatnot.

No one needs a special black cash register.

No one needs a special black browser.

How many times do I have to say it?  WEB PORTAL.

It never fails to amaze me how some people will trip over themselves to defend something just because it&#039;s black owned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derrick,</p>
<p>You seem to have missed the point.  It never ceases to amaze me how often that happens in this discussion.</p>
<p>The objection to BlackBird isn&#8217;t: OMG there shouldn&#8217;t be things aimed at just black people!</p>
<p>Well, not from me and any non-racists.  The objection is that the concept is dumb.  Why do Black people need a separate piece of software to access the internet?  How does using this browser make the internet better for black people?  It doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Now, if you want me to support a black business, I am (usually) there.  A bookstore aimed at black people?  Why yes, I am all about that.  But what if you opened your bookstore and someone came in and said &#8220;You know, you should use my special cash register for black people.  It takes their money the same as a regular cash register, but it&#8217;s all black instead of beige.  Also, it will flash ads at them while showing how much they should pay.&#8221;  You would tell that person to get the fuck out of your store, wouldn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Or how about, when you&#8217;re building the store, if someone came along and said &#8220;You need these special shelves to put black books on.  they&#8217;re designed for black people who read black books.  Also, you need a special door for black people to walk through.  Whenever it opens it plays hip hop.&#8221;</p>
<p>You would find that stupid as well, wouldn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Of course, you may decide to buy your hardware or other equipment from a black-owned business, but the shelves and doors and cash registers and computers and whatever else you buy, regardless of the race of those who sold them, would not be in some way different because the seller is black or white or asian or whatnot.</p>
<p>No one needs a special black cash register.</p>
<p>No one needs a special black browser.</p>
<p>How many times do I have to say it?  WEB PORTAL.</p>
<p>It never fails to amaze me how some people will trip over themselves to defend something just because it&#8217;s black owned.</p>
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		<title>By: Derrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok...sometimes my people disappoint me to near tears and concern for my daughters future.

One of the major reasons Black people lag in quality schools, political clout, and even quality retail shopping experiences is because we don&#039;t force people to respect us.  And the way people gain respect in America is with the dollar bill.  So at every viable opportunity we recieve to support a legitimate black business and re-route dollars through our communities we should jump at it.

Until we do that our schools, public policy, housing standards, crime prevention, health care, and everything else will lag behind every other cultural group in this country.

I am starting an online bookstore that caters to Black people and almost every prospective investor I went to said: 1) black people don&#039;t read, &amp; 2) why would Black people support you versus B&amp;N, Amazon, or Borders.

None of them thought about the fact that Black people read more than Urban Lit or books about Hep me get a man.  That type of target marketing never quite gets the same response as Blackbird.  Its really sad that we can not find it within our hearts and minds to support black people.

And for anyone that says well, Black businesses do not offer quality products or services...I say find the right black business and support them.  (And it&#039;s not like all white owned businesses always treat us better and provide superior products.)  This is the only way that we will affect change to our current standards of living.  Barack cannot do it by himself.  WE have to take responsibility for ourselves and pull each other up by the boot straps.

Stop complaining and BE THE CHANGE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230;sometimes my people disappoint me to near tears and concern for my daughters future.</p>
<p>One of the major reasons Black people lag in quality schools, political clout, and even quality retail shopping experiences is because we don&#8217;t force people to respect us.  And the way people gain respect in America is with the dollar bill.  So at every viable opportunity we recieve to support a legitimate black business and re-route dollars through our communities we should jump at it.</p>
<p>Until we do that our schools, public policy, housing standards, crime prevention, health care, and everything else will lag behind every other cultural group in this country.</p>
<p>I am starting an online bookstore that caters to Black people and almost every prospective investor I went to said: 1) black people don&#8217;t read, &amp; 2) why would Black people support you versus B&amp;N, Amazon, or Borders.</p>
<p>None of them thought about the fact that Black people read more than Urban Lit or books about Hep me get a man.  That type of target marketing never quite gets the same response as Blackbird.  Its really sad that we can not find it within our hearts and minds to support black people.</p>
<p>And for anyone that says well, Black businesses do not offer quality products or services&#8230;I say find the right black business and support them.  (And it&#8217;s not like all white owned businesses always treat us better and provide superior products.)  This is the only way that we will affect change to our current standards of living.  Barack cannot do it by himself.  WE have to take responsibility for ourselves and pull each other up by the boot straps.</p>
<p>Stop complaining and BE THE CHANGE</p>
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