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		<title>By: Denise</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2008/05/23/hillarys-behavior-has-left-me-speechless/comment-page-1/#comment-7365</link>
		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, am disgusted but must say.  There are not implications in her speech to McCain.  The Republican process will go on as it was before.  Unless Hillary had dreams of changing parties if McCain dies, the implications are entirely to Barack Obama.

It is precisely this hateful type of comment that had the Republicans hoping they&#039;d be opposing her in November.   She&#039;s help to assure a strong Republican turn out because no self-respecting Republican feels neutral about Hillary Clinton.  They hate her.

While I doubt I&#039;d vote for McCain in November, if somehow Hillary is the Democrat nominee, I know I cannot in good conscience vote for Hillary.  So, once again, I would be left out of the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, am disgusted but must say.  There are not implications in her speech to McCain.  The Republican process will go on as it was before.  Unless Hillary had dreams of changing parties if McCain dies, the implications are entirely to Barack Obama.</p>
<p>It is precisely this hateful type of comment that had the Republicans hoping they&#8217;d be opposing her in November.   She&#8217;s help to assure a strong Republican turn out because no self-respecting Republican feels neutral about Hillary Clinton.  They hate her.</p>
<p>While I doubt I&#8217;d vote for McCain in November, if somehow Hillary is the Democrat nominee, I know I cannot in good conscience vote for Hillary.  So, once again, I would be left out of the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Susie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 20:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;A few here are painting a picture of me based on how your interpreting the comments.&lt;/i&gt;

The only person who&#039;s painting a picture of you is you, by your use of words.  The rest of us are trying to understand what you mean by what you&#039;re saying, and to respond appropriately  -- agreeing or disagreeing, as the case may be.   If you can&#039;t handle being disagreed with fairly politely, and see this as an attempt to victimize you in some fashion, I&#039;m not sure what to say.

&lt;i&gt;The prejudice here is almost surprising.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t understand what prejudice we&#039;re supposed to be under -- I personally didn&#039;t know the first thing about you until I just now clicked on your link to your blog.  Actually, having looked, I&#039;m still not sure exactly what your racial/ethnic background is.  Which is just as well, as that shouldn&#039;t really matter to the discussion, should it?  So there&#039;s no pre-judgment for me to be operating from, I&#039;m just looking at what you&#039;re saying and responding to what you seem to mean.

If you say something that several different people interpret in the same way, a way which is actually not what you meant, it might be time to wonder whether you&#039;re expressing yourself well, rather than whether others are colluding against you.  If I&#039;ve misunderstood you, I&#039;m sorry, but I promise you I have no agenda in doing so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>A few here are painting a picture of me based on how your interpreting the comments.</i></p>
<p>The only person who&#8217;s painting a picture of you is you, by your use of words.  The rest of us are trying to understand what you mean by what you&#8217;re saying, and to respond appropriately  &#8212; agreeing or disagreeing, as the case may be.   If you can&#8217;t handle being disagreed with fairly politely, and see this as an attempt to victimize you in some fashion, I&#8217;m not sure what to say.</p>
<p><i>The prejudice here is almost surprising.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand what prejudice we&#8217;re supposed to be under &#8212; I personally didn&#8217;t know the first thing about you until I just now clicked on your link to your blog.  Actually, having looked, I&#8217;m still not sure exactly what your racial/ethnic background is.  Which is just as well, as that shouldn&#8217;t really matter to the discussion, should it?  So there&#8217;s no pre-judgment for me to be operating from, I&#8217;m just looking at what you&#8217;re saying and responding to what you seem to mean.</p>
<p>If you say something that several different people interpret in the same way, a way which is actually not what you meant, it might be time to wonder whether you&#8217;re expressing yourself well, rather than whether others are colluding against you.  If I&#8217;ve misunderstood you, I&#8217;m sorry, but I promise you I have no agenda in doing so.</p>
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		<title>By: Radfem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radfem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 15:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think it’s interesting that someone who can’t vote has so much say about our vote, but, that is beside the point.

I think it’s tragic that our elections effect so many people who have no say in them, and that so many of us seem to care so little about that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think it’s interesting that someone who can’t vote has so much say about our vote, but, that is beside the point.</p>
<p>I think it’s tragic that our elections effect so many people who have no say in them, and that so many of us seem to care so little about that.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: hara</title>
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		<dc:creator>hara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 14:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t say anyone should not have something to say.
I said it is interesting.  And it is.  I know our nation affects others.

A few here are painting a picture of me based on how your interpreting the comments.  You&#039;re not even close folks.

I hope you&#039;ll be careful not to put words that aren&#039;t there into your perception of someone else. It doesn&#039;t serve your purpose.

The fact that I&#039;ll vote dem, whether it&#039;s Clinton or Obama does not automatically make me one or another type of person.  The prejudice here is almost surprising.

Hopefully,  you&#039;re not so quick to judge people when it comes to issues you&#039;re less passionate about.  I&#039;ll leave with that and wishing you all the best.
peace out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say anyone should not have something to say.<br />
I said it is interesting.  And it is.  I know our nation affects others.</p>
<p>A few here are painting a picture of me based on how your interpreting the comments.  You&#8217;re not even close folks.</p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;ll be careful not to put words that aren&#8217;t there into your perception of someone else. It doesn&#8217;t serve your purpose.</p>
<p>The fact that I&#8217;ll vote dem, whether it&#8217;s Clinton or Obama does not automatically make me one or another type of person.  The prejudice here is almost surprising.</p>
<p>Hopefully,  you&#8217;re not so quick to judge people when it comes to issues you&#8217;re less passionate about.  I&#8217;ll leave with that and wishing you all the best.<br />
peace out.</p>
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		<title>By: Susie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 00:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think it’s interesting that someone who can’t vote has so much say about our vote, but, that is beside the point.&lt;/i&gt;

I think it&#039;s tragic that our elections effect so many people who have no say in them, and that so many of us seem to care so little about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think it’s interesting that someone who can’t vote has so much say about our vote, but, that is beside the point.</i></p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s tragic that our elections effect so many people who have no say in them, and that so many of us seem to care so little about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Radfem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radfem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 19:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hara, I stopped reading about the primaries a while ago. I&#039;m not a voting Democrat, so it&#039;s up to those folks to determine who will be their nominee. I&#039;m voting for McKinney.

The ugliness by some who deny that there&#039;s racism in Hillary Clinton&#039;s campaign is truly something to behold. In some cases I don&#039;t know where the loyalty to Clinton begins and the thinly veiled hatred or resentment of Black women in particular begins. In other cases, it&#039;s more clear. But it&#039;s ruined any ounce of pride at having a female candidate make it this far. That&#039;s for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hara, I stopped reading about the primaries a while ago. I&#8217;m not a voting Democrat, so it&#8217;s up to those folks to determine who will be their nominee. I&#8217;m voting for McKinney.</p>
<p>The ugliness by some who deny that there&#8217;s racism in Hillary Clinton&#8217;s campaign is truly something to behold. In some cases I don&#8217;t know where the loyalty to Clinton begins and the thinly veiled hatred or resentment of Black women in particular begins. In other cases, it&#8217;s more clear. But it&#8217;s ruined any ounce of pride at having a female candidate make it this far. That&#8217;s for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: rahimeh</title>
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		<dc:creator>rahimeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 19:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hara,

I think you were trying to address me, not Radfem. You had quoted me in your last comment and I responded to that.

You don’t think I should have “so much say about [your] vote” because *I* can’t vote? I beg your pardon, but I and every other human being on this planet have a right to participate in the discussion of your elections, since we’re all affected by them.  (Please don&#039;t forget that your government&#039;s actions around the world often mean the devastation of many people&#039;s lives and communities.)  And that, hara, is the tragedy of your nation&#039;s power.

(To ABW or Karnythia: I first submitted this comment, accidentally using another email address. It&#039;s awaiting moderation, so please feel free to delete it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hara,</p>
<p>I think you were trying to address me, not Radfem. You had quoted me in your last comment and I responded to that.</p>
<p>You don’t think I should have “so much say about [your] vote” because *I* can’t vote? I beg your pardon, but I and every other human being on this planet have a right to participate in the discussion of your elections, since we’re all affected by them.  (Please don&#8217;t forget that your government&#8217;s actions around the world often mean the devastation of many people&#8217;s lives and communities.)  And that, hara, is the tragedy of your nation&#8217;s power.</p>
<p>(To ABW or Karnythia: I first submitted this comment, accidentally using another email address. It&#8217;s awaiting moderation, so please feel free to delete it.)</p>
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		<title>By: rahimeh</title>
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		<dc:creator>rahimeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 18:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hara,

I think you were trying to address me.  You had quoted me in your last comment and I responded to that.

You don&#039;t think I should have &quot;so much say about [your] vote&quot; because *I&quot; can&#039;t vote?  I beg your pardon, but I and every other living being on this planet has every right to participate in the discussion of your elections since we&#039;re all affected by them - for some it&#039;s even a matter of life and death.  And that, hara, is the tragedy of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hara,</p>
<p>I think you were trying to address me.  You had quoted me in your last comment and I responded to that.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t think I should have &#8220;so much say about [your] vote&#8221; because *I&#8221; can&#8217;t vote?  I beg your pardon, but I and every other living being on this planet has every right to participate in the discussion of your elections since we&#8217;re all affected by them &#8211; for some it&#8217;s even a matter of life and death.  And that, hara, is the tragedy of it.</p>
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		<title>By: hara</title>
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		<dc:creator>hara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 14:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear radfem,
I was not only commenting to you.  I think it&#039;s interesting that someone who can&#039;t vote has so much say about our vote, but, that is beside the point.
I haven&#039;t read the news yet today, are the primaries over?
(rhetorical question, not meant ot start a war with you or any oter commenter on ABW blog).

I vote Democratic in the U.S.  presidential elections (so far), regardless of candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear radfem,<br />
I was not only commenting to you.  I think it&#8217;s interesting that someone who can&#8217;t vote has so much say about our vote, but, that is beside the point.<br />
I haven&#8217;t read the news yet today, are the primaries over?<br />
(rhetorical question, not meant ot start a war with you or any oter commenter on ABW blog).</p>
<p>I vote Democratic in the U.S.  presidential elections (so far), regardless of candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: Saladin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saladin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 13:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If they do not, they will be showing us that they have become so politicized that even the thought of the assassination of a fellow human being, let alone a brother, is a tolerable occurance in their book&quot;

Not necessarily.  Of course Hillary&#039;s comments were vicious and slimy.  But in this instance, realistically, to condemn Hillary publicly would be tantamount to supporting Obama.   And while I too am disgusted by the Former First Mass Murderer&#039;s Lady  and her camp, there are lots of reasons people -- yes, even Black people -- might not want to lend vocal support to Obama...take for instance the Black Agenda Report&#039;s recent editorial &quot;Barack Obama versus Black Self-Determination&quot;:

&quot;Barack Obama, whose disdain for what he calls the &#039;excesses of the 1960s and 1970s&#039; is palpable, seeks to eradicate all vestiges of Black self-determination, root and branch. The Senator has never made a secret of his intentions, dating from his 2004 Democratic National Convention declaration that &#039;there is no Black America,&#039; to his categorical rejection of the Black counter-narrative of American history, as preached by Rev. Jeremiah Wright and understood by most African Americans....Obama has revealed himself as a rabid nationalist of the standard, white America variety. &#039;I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country,&#039; says Obama - which pretty much says it all. &quot;

(http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=636&amp;Itemid=1)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If they do not, they will be showing us that they have become so politicized that even the thought of the assassination of a fellow human being, let alone a brother, is a tolerable occurance in their book&#8221;</p>
<p>Not necessarily.  Of course Hillary&#8217;s comments were vicious and slimy.  But in this instance, realistically, to condemn Hillary publicly would be tantamount to supporting Obama.   And while I too am disgusted by the Former First Mass Murderer&#8217;s Lady  and her camp, there are lots of reasons people &#8212; yes, even Black people &#8212; might not want to lend vocal support to Obama&#8230;take for instance the Black Agenda Report&#8217;s recent editorial &#8220;Barack Obama versus Black Self-Determination&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;Barack Obama, whose disdain for what he calls the &#8216;excesses of the 1960s and 1970s&#8217; is palpable, seeks to eradicate all vestiges of Black self-determination, root and branch. The Senator has never made a secret of his intentions, dating from his 2004 Democratic National Convention declaration that &#8216;there is no Black America,&#8217; to his categorical rejection of the Black counter-narrative of American history, as preached by Rev. Jeremiah Wright and understood by most African Americans&#8230;.Obama has revealed himself as a rabid nationalist of the standard, white America variety. &#8216;I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country,&#8217; says Obama &#8211; which pretty much says it all. &#8221;</p>
<p>(<a href="http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=636&#038;Itemid=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=636&#038;Itemid=1</a>)</p>
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