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		<title>By: r. anny</title>
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		<dc:creator>r. anny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all you &#039;if Clinton loses, I&#039;m voting for McCain&#039; folk, or you &#039;if Obama loses I&#039;m voting for McCain&#039; folk.  Consider this thought: your vote is not only symbolic - in this election the results will deeply effect your life...  If the following info. does not convince, consider the following two words, SUPREME COURT. (As in, there are a couple old right wingers on the bench in need of retiring, and all we need is a McCain appointee to join Roberts and Alito, Bush&#039;s two, truly reactionary rightist appointees, to finish shredding the bill of rights and the constitution...) and they will, my people.

10 things you should know about John McCain (but possibly don&#039;t):
1. John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has &quot;evolved,&quot; yet he&#039;s continued to oppose key civil rights laws.1
2. According to Bloomberg News, McCain is more hawkish than Bush on Iraq, Russia and China. Conservative columnist Pat Buchanan says McCain &quot;will make Cheney look like Gandhi.&quot;2
3. His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban.3
4. McCain opposes a woman&#039;s right to choose. He said, &quot;I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned.&quot;4

5. The Children&#039;s Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children&#039;s health care bill last year, then defended Bush&#039;s veto of the bill.5

6. He&#039;s one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a &quot;second job&quot; and skip their vacations.6

7. Many of McCain&#039;s fellow Republican senators say he&#039;s too reckless to be commander in chief. One Republican senator said: &quot;The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He&#039;s erratic. He&#039;s hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me.&quot;7

8. McCain talks a lot about taking on special interests, but his campaign manager and top advisers are actually lobbyists. The government watchdog group Public Citizen says McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates.8
9. McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls his &quot;spiritual guide,&quot; Rod Parsley, believes America&#039;s founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a &quot;false religion.&quot; McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God&#039;s punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church &quot;the Antichrist&quot; and a &quot;false cult.&quot;9

10. He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year.10</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all you &#8216;if Clinton loses, I&#8217;m voting for McCain&#8217; folk, or you &#8216;if Obama loses I&#8217;m voting for McCain&#8217; folk.  Consider this thought: your vote is not only symbolic &#8211; in this election the results will deeply effect your life&#8230;  If the following info. does not convince, consider the following two words, SUPREME COURT. (As in, there are a couple old right wingers on the bench in need of retiring, and all we need is a McCain appointee to join Roberts and Alito, Bush&#8217;s two, truly reactionary rightist appointees, to finish shredding the bill of rights and the constitution&#8230;) and they will, my people.</p>
<p>10 things you should know about John McCain (but possibly don&#8217;t):<br />
1. John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has &#8220;evolved,&#8221; yet he&#8217;s continued to oppose key civil rights laws.1<br />
2. According to Bloomberg News, McCain is more hawkish than Bush on Iraq, Russia and China. Conservative columnist Pat Buchanan says McCain &#8220;will make Cheney look like Gandhi.&#8221;2<br />
3. His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban.3<br />
4. McCain opposes a woman&#8217;s right to choose. He said, &#8220;I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned.&#8221;4</p>
<p>5. The Children&#8217;s Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children&#8217;s health care bill last year, then defended Bush&#8217;s veto of the bill.5</p>
<p>6. He&#8217;s one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a &#8220;second job&#8221; and skip their vacations.6</p>
<p>7. Many of McCain&#8217;s fellow Republican senators say he&#8217;s too reckless to be commander in chief. One Republican senator said: &#8220;The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He&#8217;s erratic. He&#8217;s hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me.&#8221;7</p>
<p>8. McCain talks a lot about taking on special interests, but his campaign manager and top advisers are actually lobbyists. The government watchdog group Public Citizen says McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates.8<br />
9. McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls his &#8220;spiritual guide,&#8221; Rod Parsley, believes America&#8217;s founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a &#8220;false religion.&#8221; McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God&#8217;s punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church &#8220;the Antichrist&#8221; and a &#8220;false cult.&#8221;9</p>
<p>10. He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year.10</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Jones</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2008/03/26/how-to-lose-a-voter-in-two-easy-steps/comment-page-1/#comment-5494</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blacks4Barack presents:
Hillary&#039;s Religion (cult ?) &#039;THE FAMILY&#039;
Very Scary !
Prays To Jesus For The Elite To Rule The World


The media has repeatedly aired the short clips of Rev. Jeremiah Wright&#039;s rhetoric in attempt to discredit and smear Barack Obama. But what&#039;s even more interesting is the fact that the media never discusses Hillary Clinton&#039;s religion, which is extremely telling and even frightening. A closer look into her &#039;religion&#039; gives one a clearer picture of why she is the way she is.In a recent article by Steven Brandt many truths about Hillary&#039;s religion, called &#039; The Family&#039; will make you shutter. The question is....where&#039;s the media on this one ?

Brandt writes, &quot;You don&#039;t choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend.&quot; said Hillary Clinton, to reporters and editors of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review on Tuesday the 25th. This is an interesting choice of words, since -- while we mostly hear about her Methodist upbringing -- Hillary Clinton has chosen to associate herself with The Family (also known as the Fellowship), a very conservative, fundamentalist organization started by Abraham Vereide...
&quot;...an immigrant preacher who in 1935 organized a small group of businessmen sympathetic to European fascism, fusing the Far Right with his own polite but authoritarian faith. From that core, Vereide built an international network of fundamentalists who spoke the language of establishment power, a &quot;family&quot; that thrives to this day. In public, they host prayer breakfasts; in private they preach a gospel of &quot;biblical capitalism,&quot; military might, and American empire. Citing Hitler, Lenin, and Mao, Doug Coe, the Family&#039;s current leader, declares, &quot;We work with power where we can, build new power where we can&#039;t.&quot;
This quote is taken from the book on The Family by the same name which will be published in May... a book which claims to
&quot;...dramatically challenge conventional wisdom about American fundamentalism, revealing its crucial role in the unraveling of the New Deal, the waging of the Cold War, and the no-holds-barred economics of globalization. The question Sharlet believes we must ask is not &quot;What do fundamentalists want?&quot; but &quot;What have they already done?&quot;
A long article was written about Hillary Clinton&#039;s participation in this organization last September in Mother Jones, and The Family, itself, was the subject of an extensive article in Harper&#039;s in March of 2003. And on March 21st, The Nation published an article on Hillary and The Family by Barbara Ehrenreich that was published on The Huffington Post and CBS News&#039; web site.
The Family avoids the word Christian but worships Jesus, though not the Jesus who promised the earth to the &quot;meek.&quot; They believe that, in mass societies, it&#039;s only the elites who matter, the political leaders who can build God&#039;s &quot;dominion&quot; on earth. Insofar as The Family has a consistent philosophy, it&#039;s all about power - cultivating it, building it and networking it together into ever-stronger units, or &quot;cells.&quot;
...wrote Ms.Ehrenreich.
Is it possible that Hillary&#039;s participation in this fundamentalist group -- which apparently preaches the &quot;gospel of military might&quot; -- would help explain her vote in favor of authorizing President Bush to attack Iraq? Is it possible her pro-NAFTA stance during her husband&#039;s administration comes from its embrace of &quot;the no-holds-barred economics of globalization&quot;? Is it possible that the sense some get that Hillary feels entitled to be president comes in part from this group&#039;s belief that &quot;it&#039;s only the elites who matter&quot;?
I encourage any reporter covering Hillary&#039;s campaign to ask her about all this.

At a time when so many people are wondering what sort of effect the Rev. Wright&#039;s sermons may have had on Barack Obama, I think it&#039;s only fair to ask what sort of effect The Family&#039;s fundamentalist mission has had - and continues to have - on Hillary Clinton. We know that George Bush engages in truly fundamentalist thinking. There is no person or new information capable of challenging his belief that what he already knows is right. Is Hillary Clinton like this in some way? I am not sure.

But the opinion I have formed from this is that - while Hillary Clinton may be considered a Liberal by many - on the inside she is a deeply Conservative person... possibly as close to being a Republican today as she was when she was a young woman supporting Senator Goldwater. This helps explain, to me, why she and John McCain are such good friends. They are both drawn to the use of military power and free market capitalism... and to taking money from lobbyists. The other opinion I have formed is that those who say there are no policy differences between Hillary and Barack haven&#039;t taken into account how their religious differences might impact the policies they would actually seek to implement as president.
(end of article)

So now a few things make more sense about Hillary. In review, she&#039;s in a kinda power-hungry cult which is actually run by her fellow Republicans which she is secretly one of ! It also makes sense why she could care less about detroying the Democratic Party. Also, beware of her claim to work toward ending the Iraq war. That is another great lie that she is telling. If you listen to her claims she commonly repeats &#039; I will start getting troops out within my first 60 days &#039;.....How many ? 3....1000...10,000 ? Don&#039;t be fooled. Hillary has no desire to end the war. She&#039;ll bring 5 troops home then say that she kept her word.

The media should be called out for not exposing this cult. Problem is, they would also be revealing the truths about their fellow Republican&#039;s plan and prayers to &#039;rule the world&#039; by any means. So it&#039;s up to us, regular Americans like you and I, to help spread the truth in spite of the media.....For The Re-Birth of America !

Greg Jones
Visit: www.Blacks4Barack.org (A Multi-Racial Organization)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blacks4Barack presents:<br />
Hillary&#8217;s Religion (cult ?) &#8216;THE FAMILY&#8217;<br />
Very Scary !<br />
Prays To Jesus For The Elite To Rule The World</p>
<p>The media has repeatedly aired the short clips of Rev. Jeremiah Wright&#8217;s rhetoric in attempt to discredit and smear Barack Obama. But what&#8217;s even more interesting is the fact that the media never discusses Hillary Clinton&#8217;s religion, which is extremely telling and even frightening. A closer look into her &#8216;religion&#8217; gives one a clearer picture of why she is the way she is.In a recent article by Steven Brandt many truths about Hillary&#8217;s religion, called &#8216; The Family&#8217; will make you shutter. The question is&#8230;.where&#8217;s the media on this one ?</p>
<p>Brandt writes, &#8220;You don&#8217;t choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend.&#8221; said Hillary Clinton, to reporters and editors of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review on Tuesday the 25th. This is an interesting choice of words, since &#8212; while we mostly hear about her Methodist upbringing &#8212; Hillary Clinton has chosen to associate herself with The Family (also known as the Fellowship), a very conservative, fundamentalist organization started by Abraham Vereide&#8230;<br />
&#8220;&#8230;an immigrant preacher who in 1935 organized a small group of businessmen sympathetic to European fascism, fusing the Far Right with his own polite but authoritarian faith. From that core, Vereide built an international network of fundamentalists who spoke the language of establishment power, a &#8220;family&#8221; that thrives to this day. In public, they host prayer breakfasts; in private they preach a gospel of &#8220;biblical capitalism,&#8221; military might, and American empire. Citing Hitler, Lenin, and Mao, Doug Coe, the Family&#8217;s current leader, declares, &#8220;We work with power where we can, build new power where we can&#8217;t.&#8221;<br />
This quote is taken from the book on The Family by the same name which will be published in May&#8230; a book which claims to<br />
&#8220;&#8230;dramatically challenge conventional wisdom about American fundamentalism, revealing its crucial role in the unraveling of the New Deal, the waging of the Cold War, and the no-holds-barred economics of globalization. The question Sharlet believes we must ask is not &#8220;What do fundamentalists want?&#8221; but &#8220;What have they already done?&#8221;<br />
A long article was written about Hillary Clinton&#8217;s participation in this organization last September in Mother Jones, and The Family, itself, was the subject of an extensive article in Harper&#8217;s in March of 2003. And on March 21st, The Nation published an article on Hillary and The Family by Barbara Ehrenreich that was published on The Huffington Post and CBS News&#8217; web site.<br />
The Family avoids the word Christian but worships Jesus, though not the Jesus who promised the earth to the &#8220;meek.&#8221; They believe that, in mass societies, it&#8217;s only the elites who matter, the political leaders who can build God&#8217;s &#8220;dominion&#8221; on earth. Insofar as The Family has a consistent philosophy, it&#8217;s all about power &#8211; cultivating it, building it and networking it together into ever-stronger units, or &#8220;cells.&#8221;<br />
&#8230;wrote Ms.Ehrenreich.<br />
Is it possible that Hillary&#8217;s participation in this fundamentalist group &#8212; which apparently preaches the &#8220;gospel of military might&#8221; &#8212; would help explain her vote in favor of authorizing President Bush to attack Iraq? Is it possible her pro-NAFTA stance during her husband&#8217;s administration comes from its embrace of &#8220;the no-holds-barred economics of globalization&#8221;? Is it possible that the sense some get that Hillary feels entitled to be president comes in part from this group&#8217;s belief that &#8220;it&#8217;s only the elites who matter&#8221;?<br />
I encourage any reporter covering Hillary&#8217;s campaign to ask her about all this.</p>
<p>At a time when so many people are wondering what sort of effect the Rev. Wright&#8217;s sermons may have had on Barack Obama, I think it&#8217;s only fair to ask what sort of effect The Family&#8217;s fundamentalist mission has had &#8211; and continues to have &#8211; on Hillary Clinton. We know that George Bush engages in truly fundamentalist thinking. There is no person or new information capable of challenging his belief that what he already knows is right. Is Hillary Clinton like this in some way? I am not sure.</p>
<p>But the opinion I have formed from this is that &#8211; while Hillary Clinton may be considered a Liberal by many &#8211; on the inside she is a deeply Conservative person&#8230; possibly as close to being a Republican today as she was when she was a young woman supporting Senator Goldwater. This helps explain, to me, why she and John McCain are such good friends. They are both drawn to the use of military power and free market capitalism&#8230; and to taking money from lobbyists. The other opinion I have formed is that those who say there are no policy differences between Hillary and Barack haven&#8217;t taken into account how their religious differences might impact the policies they would actually seek to implement as president.<br />
(end of article)</p>
<p>So now a few things make more sense about Hillary. In review, she&#8217;s in a kinda power-hungry cult which is actually run by her fellow Republicans which she is secretly one of ! It also makes sense why she could care less about detroying the Democratic Party. Also, beware of her claim to work toward ending the Iraq war. That is another great lie that she is telling. If you listen to her claims she commonly repeats &#8216; I will start getting troops out within my first 60 days &#8216;&#8230;..How many ? 3&#8230;.1000&#8230;10,000 ? Don&#8217;t be fooled. Hillary has no desire to end the war. She&#8217;ll bring 5 troops home then say that she kept her word.</p>
<p>The media should be called out for not exposing this cult. Problem is, they would also be revealing the truths about their fellow Republican&#8217;s plan and prayers to &#8216;rule the world&#8217; by any means. So it&#8217;s up to us, regular Americans like you and I, to help spread the truth in spite of the media&#8230;..For The Re-Birth of America !</p>
<p>Greg Jones<br />
Visit: <a href="http://www.Blacks4Barack.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.Blacks4Barack.org</a> (A Multi-Racial Organization)</p>
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		<title>By: Adaora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adaora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness someone other then myself is saying it.


Cheers hun.</description>
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<p>Cheers hun.</p>
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		<title>By: Beigelights</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beigelights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Clinton is foolish enough to write an accurate account of not being shot at in Bosnia in her book and then think she can get away with telling a different version later - either saying she was shot at was a mistake, or she&#039;s stupid, and she may be many things, but I don&#039;t think stupid is one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Clinton is foolish enough to write an accurate account of not being shot at in Bosnia in her book and then think she can get away with telling a different version later &#8211; either saying she was shot at was a mistake, or she&#8217;s stupid, and she may be many things, but I don&#8217;t think stupid is one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Foxessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foxessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What bubble does that poster inhabit?

I am seeing particularly white males everywhere screeching &quot;racist!&quot; re Wright.  And how ungrateful black are to all the white people who have tried to &#039;hep&#039; them and that this is best country for black people to live in there ever was.

No matter what facts, documents, etc. you bring out, how many quotes from other white racist males, you cannot get through to them because -- they are so embarrassingly obviously reveling in their joy of howling &#039;racist&#039; at a black man.

These guys, btw, also howl how sick they are of not being able to call a woman a &#039;cunt,&#039;  etc.  How sicksicksick of political correctness they are.  They  resent not being able to continue in the ways of, presumably, their fathers, and this is one of the opportunties, as they see it, to get some of their contempt on.

Love, C.</description>
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<p>I am seeing particularly white males everywhere screeching &#8220;racist!&#8221; re Wright.  And how ungrateful black are to all the white people who have tried to &#8216;hep&#8217; them and that this is best country for black people to live in there ever was.</p>
<p>No matter what facts, documents, etc. you bring out, how many quotes from other white racist males, you cannot get through to them because &#8212; they are so embarrassingly obviously reveling in their joy of howling &#8216;racist&#8217; at a black man.</p>
<p>These guys, btw, also howl how sick they are of not being able to call a woman a &#8216;cunt,&#8217;  etc.  How sicksicksick of political correctness they are.  They  resent not being able to continue in the ways of, presumably, their fathers, and this is one of the opportunties, as they see it, to get some of their contempt on.</p>
<p>Love, C.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ABW.

My last comment did not go through.

Am I on &quot;comment moderation&quot;?</description>
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<p>My last comment did not go through.</p>
<p>Am I on &#8220;comment moderation&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ico.
Many people do not know the history of the suffragette movement,  (not saying you do not), but, whenever I read a comment posted by anyone that &quot;Women got the vote in 1920&quot;, I have to ask &quot;What women?&quot; Looking at the time frame, only white women could vote.


Not black men (obtained the right to vote &quot;on paper&quot;) with the 15TH Amendment [countless black men murdered while trying to exercise the right to vote;


Not Black women (obtained the right to vote  on &quot;paper&#039;&#039; ) with the 20TH Amendment; countless black women destroyed while trying to exercise the right to vote;


Not Native American women (who had NO RIGHT TO VOTE). Native Americans  were not declared U.S. citizens until 1924.

That is why I questioned which women of whom you were speaking.

Yes, white women face sexism. ALL women face sexism. Compound that with racism, black and other WOC face what many black women call the double jeopardy.

As a black woman I wonder which is more sick and twisted:  racist hatred from non-black men (white, Latino, Asian, Native American [and believe me, black women have suffered from racist hate from more than just white men]);  OR, sexism from all men (white, men of other races---as well as black men).

It is more oppressive, because it is a double-beat-down. But, that is the uniqueness of the experiences of WOC: we have seen and experienced IT ALL.

 As I stated on a post at my blog, fighting the Hydra-headed monster of &quot;Isms&quot; is something that millions of WOC have much experience with, which is why I have much contempt for the so-called white feminists through the years who cared nothing for WOC. The so-called feminists who couldn&#039;t&#039; wait to get up on an even par with the white man, even if it meant kicking WOC to the curb (something that many middle-, upper-class white feminists are often so ready to do.)

Much of which many so-called middle-, upper-class white feminists still do.

Being a black woman I do realize that many men look at me as a black woman first (hypersexualized because of all the millions of lies told by white men against black women since 1619). But, on the other hand, sexism from all men, even your own (black men) who have the audacity to compare all black women to white women (never mind if some particular white women can have less morals than some black women.) stings much worse.

So, for me, as a black woman, I face more than sexism. For me, I have to fight against racist/sexist hatreds created against black women by white men, and in many cases, kept into place by some of the self-hating black men who reside in my community, as well as by other MOC.

&quot;What I said was that Obama has male privilege, Clinton has white privilege. And Wright clearly (to my mind) ignores ALL the obstacles that white women face because of sexism by saying things like “Hillary never had to work twice as hard” blah blah. And I am sorry, but as a white woman? I know I sure as hell have to work twice as hard as most white men to get anywhere. Yes I have white privilege. But I feel the effects of sexism everyday, dragging me down, making life miserable in all kinds of little (and not so little) ways. So it is not cool of Wright to dismiss that by implying that male privilege does not exist, or is any less a hurdle than white privilege. Obama has to face obstacles. So does Hillary. Period.&quot;

True.

ALL MEN have male privilege. Even black men. Just because a man is black does not make him any less a member of the &quot;Men&#039;s Club&quot;.

The three groups of people in America who have given the most hells to black women are the following:


-White men

-White women

AND

-Black men

White men started calling black women &quot;bitches&quot;
&quot;whores/wenches&quot;.

Now, 8 years into the millennium, who needs a white man to call a black woman a bitch when there are some self-hating black men who will do it for the white man.

Today, 8 years into the millennium, black women STILL have to fight both racism from white men and white women and sexism from black men and all other men.

Shit.

What the hell.

In addition to worshipping whiteness, this country also worships maleness.

Just as there have been white women (the most well-known---so-called white feminists [middle-, upper-class] who have been racists against black women right along with white men (and many white women still are), so too have black men been sexist against black women, and thinking only of their agendas that benefited them only as well.

Yes, male privilege brings all the males into the fold, even if it means stomping on and destroying the women of your own race.

And black women still have to fight both racism and sexism------from white men, white women, black men--------and everyone else out there who does not have black women (or other WOC&#039;s needs and interests in mind).

&quot;What I said was that Obama has male privilege, Clinton has white privilege.&quot;

Indeed.

White men have privilege.
White women have privilege.
Black men have privilege.

All the Blacks are not men; all the women are not white..................

.....................But, Many of Us are Still Brave.

And many (white men; white women; black men) have walked across the backs of millions of black women in this country to get to what they wanted at the expense of many black women.

And Clinton is no better than George Bush with all the lies she has been telling (Yugoslavia).

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ico.<br />
Many people do not know the history of the suffragette movement,  (not saying you do not), but, whenever I read a comment posted by anyone that &#8220;Women got the vote in 1920&#8243;, I have to ask &#8220;What women?&#8221; Looking at the time frame, only white women could vote.</p>
<p>Not black men (obtained the right to vote &#8220;on paper&#8221;) with the 15TH Amendment [countless black men murdered while trying to exercise the right to vote;</p>
<p>Not Black women (obtained the right to vote  on "paper'' ) with the 20TH Amendment; countless black women destroyed while trying to exercise the right to vote;</p>
<p>Not Native American women (who had NO RIGHT TO VOTE). Native Americans  were not declared U.S. citizens until 1924.</p>
<p>That is why I questioned which women of whom you were speaking.</p>
<p>Yes, white women face sexism. ALL women face sexism. Compound that with racism, black and other WOC face what many black women call the double jeopardy.</p>
<p>As a black woman I wonder which is more sick and twisted:  racist hatred from non-black men (white, Latino, Asian, Native American [and believe me, black women have suffered from racist hate from more than just white men]);  OR, sexism from all men (white, men of other races&#8212;as well as black men).</p>
<p>It is more oppressive, because it is a double-beat-down. But, that is the uniqueness of the experiences of WOC: we have seen and experienced IT ALL.</p>
<p> As I stated on a post at my blog, fighting the Hydra-headed monster of &#8220;Isms&#8221; is something that millions of WOC have much experience with, which is why I have much contempt for the so-called white feminists through the years who cared nothing for WOC. The so-called feminists who couldn&#8217;t&#8217; wait to get up on an even par with the white man, even if it meant kicking WOC to the curb (something that many middle-, upper-class white feminists are often so ready to do.)</p>
<p>Much of which many so-called middle-, upper-class white feminists still do.</p>
<p>Being a black woman I do realize that many men look at me as a black woman first (hypersexualized because of all the millions of lies told by white men against black women since 1619). But, on the other hand, sexism from all men, even your own (black men) who have the audacity to compare all black women to white women (never mind if some particular white women can have less morals than some black women.) stings much worse.</p>
<p>So, for me, as a black woman, I face more than sexism. For me, I have to fight against racist/sexist hatreds created against black women by white men, and in many cases, kept into place by some of the self-hating black men who reside in my community, as well as by other MOC.</p>
<p>&#8220;What I said was that Obama has male privilege, Clinton has white privilege. And Wright clearly (to my mind) ignores ALL the obstacles that white women face because of sexism by saying things like “Hillary never had to work twice as hard” blah blah. And I am sorry, but as a white woman? I know I sure as hell have to work twice as hard as most white men to get anywhere. Yes I have white privilege. But I feel the effects of sexism everyday, dragging me down, making life miserable in all kinds of little (and not so little) ways. So it is not cool of Wright to dismiss that by implying that male privilege does not exist, or is any less a hurdle than white privilege. Obama has to face obstacles. So does Hillary. Period.&#8221;</p>
<p>True.</p>
<p>ALL MEN have male privilege. Even black men. Just because a man is black does not make him any less a member of the &#8220;Men&#8217;s Club&#8221;.</p>
<p>The three groups of people in America who have given the most hells to black women are the following:</p>
<p>-White men</p>
<p>-White women</p>
<p>AND</p>
<p>-Black men</p>
<p>White men started calling black women &#8220;bitches&#8221;<br />
&#8220;whores/wenches&#8221;.</p>
<p>Now, 8 years into the millennium, who needs a white man to call a black woman a bitch when there are some self-hating black men who will do it for the white man.</p>
<p>Today, 8 years into the millennium, black women STILL have to fight both racism from white men and white women and sexism from black men and all other men.</p>
<p>Shit.</p>
<p>What the hell.</p>
<p>In addition to worshipping whiteness, this country also worships maleness.</p>
<p>Just as there have been white women (the most well-known&#8212;so-called white feminists [middle-, upper-class] who have been racists against black women right along with white men (and many white women still are), so too have black men been sexist against black women, and thinking only of their agendas that benefited them only as well.</p>
<p>Yes, male privilege brings all the males into the fold, even if it means stomping on and destroying the women of your own race.</p>
<p>And black women still have to fight both racism and sexism&#8212;&#8212;from white men, white women, black men&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;and everyone else out there who does not have black women (or other WOC&#8217;s needs and interests in mind).</p>
<p>&#8220;What I said was that Obama has male privilege, Clinton has white privilege.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed.</p>
<p>White men have privilege.<br />
White women have privilege.<br />
Black men have privilege.</p>
<p>All the Blacks are not men; all the women are not white&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;But, Many of Us are Still Brave.</p>
<p>And many (white men; white women; black men) have walked across the backs of millions of black women in this country to get to what they wanted at the expense of many black women.</p>
<p>And Clinton is no better than George Bush with all the lies she has been telling (Yugoslavia).</p>
<p>Clinton is nothing but a white man in a dress (well, in the case of Clinton, a white woman in white men&#8217;s clothing.)</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, Ico beat me to it.</description>
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		<dc:creator>Legible Susan</dc:creator>
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		<description>^^^^ Was that meant to be funny? Illustrating the preceding observations, maybe? I believe there was a post on here recently about how satire only works if it&#039;s directed at somebody (or institution) with power, and preferably also not stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^^ Was that meant to be funny? Illustrating the preceding observations, maybe? I believe there was a post on here recently about how satire only works if it&#8217;s directed at somebody (or institution) with power, and preferably also not stupid.</p>
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		<description>^ ^ ^  Speak of the devil...

(FYI, happierthanyou, I am, in fact, white.  And so far those scary educated POC haven&#039;t come to crucify me.  But it is marvelously enlightened of you to get along with only those blacks who don&#039;t own computers.  They do tend to get uppity with education, don&#039;t they?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ ^ ^  Speak of the devil&#8230;</p>
<p>(FYI, happierthanyou, I am, in fact, white.  And so far those scary educated POC haven&#8217;t come to crucify me.  But it is marvelously enlightened of you to get along with only those blacks who don&#8217;t own computers.  They do tend to get uppity with education, don&#8217;t they?)</p>
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