Comments on: Do you know we can see you?

By: bitBM

bitBM — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 04:29:22 +0000

I deal with that issue in a short story I wrote (and it’s not finished), but it deals with a Black girl raised by two upper middle class Whites in DC and her daily discussions with a male friend who’s White. They are trying to understand one another and often, it does not go so well.

By: karnythia

karnythia — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:46:59 +0000

When did black people start oppressing white people in America? Expressing anger over injustice does not equal oppression. The whole point of fighting for equality? To ensure that being of color does not mean you have to work harder than someone white. As for Rev. Wright if you can’t see why he’d feel thatw ay after growing during segregation then you have even less of a grasp of racial issues than Mike Huckabee.

By: D'Andre Williams III

D'Andre Williams III — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:41:42 +0000

If I read “Rosie’s” point correctly, it sounds like she was trying to say that oppressing another race to make another one look better is the same thing as racism. I think we should be beyond that type of hate. Yeah there will be things you don’t like to hear, but you move away from it and let it go. But in 2008 we all have the opportunity to be successful. Some of us just got to work a little harder at it.

If she doesn’t vote for Obama, then that’s her deal. No one should guilt anyone into making a political choice just because of race. Especially now that we see exactly who Rev. Wright it. He can do a million things well, but make 5 speeches inspiring church goers to Damn White America and I see a real problem with that. I for one am thankful that Obama denounced that man’s speeches and I would never let my girls listen to such hate.

By: Angel H.

Angel H. — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:33:21 +0000

D’Andre,

Rosie repeatedly used stereotypes against POC (“I feel that a lot of people are jumping out there to vote simply because he’s black”…”I suppose my life has been privileged, so I can no longer identify with those of my race. I don’t have a brother who has been jailed for drugs, nor has anyone in my family been racially profiled”…), yet she accused others of being discriminatory against whites.

She may have a different interpretation of POC culture, but she’s still a POC.

Being a POC does not give anyone a free pass here. Besides, nobody here dismissed her experiences. She, however, dismissed ours.

I think she may be more culturally evolved and ethnically uniting than you who mocked her for being priviledged.

Fuck you ever so much for making statements against people about whom you nothing. ;-)

As for being more “ethnically uniting”: If “ethnically uniting” means to stick your hand in the sand and ignore what’s going on around you instead of calling people out on their racist shit, then I’m afraid I’m gonna have to say “Oh hellz no!”

By: Aaminah

Aaminah — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:30:09 +0000

Uh, no one “mocked” her for being privileged or even said that her viewpoint isn’t totally valid in relation to her experience. In fact, quite the opposite: she was told that she should vote for who she feels meets her needs and has the platform she agrees most with even if it isn’t Obama. What was said is that it isn’t everyone else’s experience, it isn’t even a common experience, and that she should stop knocking and mocking other PoC who haven’t had her privilege. Heck, she went so far as to speak ill of her own family because she is full of assumptions that NO ONE could possibly be considering Obama based on issues other than his skin color. Apparently no one is quite as smart as Rosie to see past skin tone, and thank God she’s here to clue us all in…

By: karnythia

karnythia — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:27:33 +0000

It’s the internet. I have no way of knowing if she’s a POC or not, or whether she lives her life passing or as an actual WOC. What I do know is that her experience is not the one most of us are having in America and she doesn’t get to dictate how we respond to our lives. She’s not evolved for pretending racism doesn’t affect POC or for denigrating POC and poor whites.

By: D'Andre Williams III

D'Andre Williams III — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:26:27 +0000

It’s a damn shame that Rosie’s points were dismissed so easily by the members of this board. She may have a different interpretation of POC culture, but she’s still a POC. I think she may be more culturally evolved and ethnically uniting than you who mocked her for being priviledged.

By: Veronica

Veronica — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:08:19 +0000

(hit post too soon–sorry!)

The point is: having your work recognized and rewarded is evidence of privilege. Not everyone has that, though everyone should.

By: Veronica

Veronica — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:07:20 +0000

And I’d point out that luck and privilege have a lot to do with getting what you have thanks to hard work. Plenty of people in this world work hard their whole lives and never see jack squat for it.

By: thewayoftheid

thewayoftheid — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:10:45 +0000

Aww, not the “goodbye” post. I hate it when they do that. But,
just on the offchance you return, let me say this:

You. Did. Not. Get. To. Where. You. Are. On. Your. Own.

If it weren’t for our grandmothers and grandfathers getting
chased by dogs and policemen with waterhoses, you wouldn’t
be here to even kick that noise.