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		<title>By: davka</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2008/03/05/co-opting-pain-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-5178</link>
		<dc:creator>davka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 03:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so fucked up.  So so so so so fucked up.  She committed a criminal act as fare as I&#039;m concerned.  What she did says that she basically believes real people (people who actually lived this) are too stupid to tell their own stories.  This is modern day colonialism and it&#039;s fucking criminal.  She stole space that belonged to someone else.  What is with rich people just assuming that they KNOW what other people go through without actually going through it?  What is that psychological mechanism that tells them its ok to do that?  It is stealing from the poor.   This girl is a rich white colonialist piece of shit.

Argh.  this makes me so angry.

It&#039;s like that &quot;Candy Girl&quot; book about stripping-  some upper middle class white girl decides to strip for a year and gets a book deal.  Forget the thousands of hard working strippers who dance to survive, this girl is white and that&#039;s what&#039;s interesting!  The audacity to say a story that isn&#039;t yours is criminal.  There is no good intention behind it.  Never.  It shouldn&#039;t be treated lightly.  It isn&#039;t a little mistake- it&#039;s a criminal act of appropriation born of the same sick twisted desire in the brain that caused the rape of the new world by white Europeans.  Don&#039;t think for one second it isn&#039;t that serious.

fuck that. her book deal reinforces the invisibility of thousands of people who need *NEED* to be heard!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so fucked up.  So so so so so fucked up.  She committed a criminal act as fare as I&#8217;m concerned.  What she did says that she basically believes real people (people who actually lived this) are too stupid to tell their own stories.  This is modern day colonialism and it&#8217;s fucking criminal.  She stole space that belonged to someone else.  What is with rich people just assuming that they KNOW what other people go through without actually going through it?  What is that psychological mechanism that tells them its ok to do that?  It is stealing from the poor.   This girl is a rich white colonialist piece of shit.</p>
<p>Argh.  this makes me so angry.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like that &#8220;Candy Girl&#8221; book about stripping-  some upper middle class white girl decides to strip for a year and gets a book deal.  Forget the thousands of hard working strippers who dance to survive, this girl is white and that&#8217;s what&#8217;s interesting!  The audacity to say a story that isn&#8217;t yours is criminal.  There is no good intention behind it.  Never.  It shouldn&#8217;t be treated lightly.  It isn&#8217;t a little mistake- it&#8217;s a criminal act of appropriation born of the same sick twisted desire in the brain that caused the rape of the new world by white Europeans.  Don&#8217;t think for one second it isn&#8217;t that serious.</p>
<p>fuck that. her book deal reinforces the invisibility of thousands of people who need *NEED* to be heard!</p>
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		<title>By: Sudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 05:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really loved this post.  I referenced this post in a small film project I did about the fem blogosphere.   If you have a moment - check it out.  It&#039;s on my blog (a link to it, anyway!).  Thanks for this amazing site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really loved this post.  I referenced this post in a small film project I did about the fem blogosphere.   If you have a moment &#8211; check it out.  It&#8217;s on my blog (a link to it, anyway!).  Thanks for this amazing site.</p>
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		<title>By: nojojojo</title>
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		<dc:creator>nojojojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, fast track to spamdom, since that&#039;s what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, fast track to spamdom, since that&#8217;s what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Legible Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Legible Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also the identical rant he posted on the &quot;About&quot; thread (or if it&#039;s different, I&#039;m not reading it closely enough to spot it). A fast track to disemvowelling, perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also the identical rant he posted on the &#8220;About&#8221; thread (or if it&#8217;s different, I&#8217;m not reading it closely enough to spot it). A fast track to disemvowelling, perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: Veronica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veronica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s...so relevant to a discussion of race and fake memoirs.  Well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s&#8230;so relevant to a discussion of race and fake memoirs.  Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: Grandmother, tell me again about the year you fooled your editor, your publisher, and the New York Times</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2008/03/05/co-opting-pain-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-5149</link>
		<dc:creator>Grandmother, tell me again about the year you fooled your editor, your publisher, and the New York Times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] few folks have commented on how easy it was to fool the largely-white, New-York-centric publishing industry keening to show [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Literary memoirs, lies, race, and appropriation at Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2008/03/05/co-opting-pain-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-5152</link>
		<dc:creator>Literary memoirs, lies, race, and appropriation at Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they just assume minorities are fucked up so there is nothing special about that. I was reading ABW, and one of her guest bloggers mentioned how Felicia &#8220;Snoop&#8221; Pearson of The Wire has a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] they just assume minorities are fucked up so there is nothing special about that. I was reading ABW, and one of her guest bloggers mentioned how Felicia &#8220;Snoop&#8221; Pearson of The Wire has a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Veronica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veronica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait wait wait--Conley&#039;s memoir was about growing up on the Lower East Side in the 1970s?  And how rough it was?  Seriously?

Because I grew up on Manhattan&#039;s Lower East Side in the late 1970s through the mid-1990s, across the street from the first housing projects in NYC (First Houses, a success story).  Now I&#039;ve just mapped Baruch projects, and it&#039;s about half a mile from where I grew up, but even prior to the massive gentrification waves that the LES has suffered...well...let&#039;s just say that I would &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; in a million years portray my childhood as some kind of tooth-and-nail fight for survival.

The thing is, there&#039;s a whole slew of false memoirs--&lt;i&gt;The Education of Little Tree&lt;/i&gt;, like Candelaria says, &lt;i&gt;Famous all Over Town&lt;/i&gt;, which in my opinion is utterly dreadful but won awards until it was revealed that the author was not a Chicano teen but an older white man, this holocaust memoir where the author has turned out &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt;, in fact, to be a Jewish woman who, as a four-year-old girl, escaped from Nazis and was brought up by a pack of wolves in the woods (!) who helped her track her parents, taken away by Nazis, 1900 miles across Europe (and &lt;i&gt;nobody&lt;/i&gt; thought that might not be true?  really?), but in fact a Belgian gentile who, because her parents were arrested by the Nazis as part of the resistance and she was condemned by the extended family who brought her up as the daughter of &quot;traitors,&quot; claims that she &quot;felt Jewish&quot; (really, one suspects that her real story would have been quite compelling enough, thank you).

It feels to me like too many writers are missing the point of fiction.  The wolf-memoir-writer says that &quot;This story is mine. It is not actually reality, but my reality, my way of surviving.&quot;  &lt;i&gt;But that&#039;s what fiction is for.&lt;/i&gt;  It&#039;s for conveying emotional truths that better represent reality than facts.  If she had written a &lt;i&gt;novel&lt;/i&gt; about a little girl caught up in the Holocaust who did all that, this wouldn&#039;t be an issue.  If Seltzer had written a &lt;i&gt;novel&lt;/i&gt;, she would still be co-opting people of color&#039;s sufferings, but she wouldn&#039;t be doing it in such a damn stupid way.  So in some ways Candelaria&#039;s elegant formation of why white people write about non-whites in this particular kind of &quot;woo, look at my hard-knock life&quot; way--that too many white people somehow think that non-white people are somehow &quot;realer&quot;--doesn&#039;t for me address the issue of why those white people would co-opt the experiences in the form of fake memoirs.  And why do they continue to do it when they &lt;i&gt;routinely&lt;/i&gt; get caught?  And how stupid are they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait wait wait&#8211;Conley&#8217;s memoir was about growing up on the Lower East Side in the 1970s?  And how rough it was?  Seriously?</p>
<p>Because I grew up on Manhattan&#8217;s Lower East Side in the late 1970s through the mid-1990s, across the street from the first housing projects in NYC (First Houses, a success story).  Now I&#8217;ve just mapped Baruch projects, and it&#8217;s about half a mile from where I grew up, but even prior to the massive gentrification waves that the LES has suffered&#8230;well&#8230;let&#8217;s just say that I would <i>never</i> in a million years portray my childhood as some kind of tooth-and-nail fight for survival.</p>
<p>The thing is, there&#8217;s a whole slew of false memoirs&#8211;<i>The Education of Little Tree</i>, like Candelaria says, <i>Famous all Over Town</i>, which in my opinion is utterly dreadful but won awards until it was revealed that the author was not a Chicano teen but an older white man, this holocaust memoir where the author has turned out <i>not</i>, in fact, to be a Jewish woman who, as a four-year-old girl, escaped from Nazis and was brought up by a pack of wolves in the woods (!) who helped her track her parents, taken away by Nazis, 1900 miles across Europe (and <i>nobody</i> thought that might not be true?  really?), but in fact a Belgian gentile who, because her parents were arrested by the Nazis as part of the resistance and she was condemned by the extended family who brought her up as the daughter of &#8220;traitors,&#8221; claims that she &#8220;felt Jewish&#8221; (really, one suspects that her real story would have been quite compelling enough, thank you).</p>
<p>It feels to me like too many writers are missing the point of fiction.  The wolf-memoir-writer says that &#8220;This story is mine. It is not actually reality, but my reality, my way of surviving.&#8221;  <i>But that&#8217;s what fiction is for.</i>  It&#8217;s for conveying emotional truths that better represent reality than facts.  If she had written a <i>novel</i> about a little girl caught up in the Holocaust who did all that, this wouldn&#8217;t be an issue.  If Seltzer had written a <i>novel</i>, she would still be co-opting people of color&#8217;s sufferings, but she wouldn&#8217;t be doing it in such a damn stupid way.  So in some ways Candelaria&#8217;s elegant formation of why white people write about non-whites in this particular kind of &#8220;woo, look at my hard-knock life&#8221; way&#8211;that too many white people somehow think that non-white people are somehow &#8220;realer&#8221;&#8211;doesn&#8217;t for me address the issue of why those white people would co-opt the experiences in the form of fake memoirs.  And why do they continue to do it when they <i>routinely</i> get caught?  And how stupid are they?</p>
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		<title>By: Candelaria Silva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candelaria Silva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once had a white colleague and writer share a story she&#039;d written about her Black housekeeper and how the housekeeper loved her.  (She was more present in this colleague&#039;s life than was her mother.)

I asked her why didn&#039;t she write about her feelings about her mother&#039;s neglect instead of writing about how the Black housekeeper loved her.

Long story short - it was too painful to write what was real she could rather write was unreal.

Several years ago, people found out that the writer of The Education of Little Tree was not Native American but was a white man, and, if I remember correctly, known to be racist.

Some white people don&#039;t want to confront the truth about their lives and don&#039;t see their lives as having flavor and so they will make up experiences or consider themselves the experts on whatever experience they&#039;re co-opting.

My husband recently attended a hip-hop conference and damn near all the expert authors were white so...it&#039;s nothing new.

What we have to do is spread the word whenever we read something authentically written rather than giving press to these wannabees.    Speaking of Bees, I hear that The Secret Lives of Bees, a novel written by a white woman is being made into the movie and I think Queen Latifah is one of the stars.  The thing about the book is that this little white girl shows up in these Black women beekeepers lives &quot;back in the day&quot; and basically ruins everything.  Yet it gets recommended as a wonderful story.

Fiction writers have license to write whatever they can imagine, I just think the best books come out of authenticity some where.  There are writers of color who write books that are inauthentic and miss the mark, too.

Angry on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once had a white colleague and writer share a story she&#8217;d written about her Black housekeeper and how the housekeeper loved her.  (She was more present in this colleague&#8217;s life than was her mother.)</p>
<p>I asked her why didn&#8217;t she write about her feelings about her mother&#8217;s neglect instead of writing about how the Black housekeeper loved her.</p>
<p>Long story short &#8211; it was too painful to write what was real she could rather write was unreal.</p>
<p>Several years ago, people found out that the writer of The Education of Little Tree was not Native American but was a white man, and, if I remember correctly, known to be racist.</p>
<p>Some white people don&#8217;t want to confront the truth about their lives and don&#8217;t see their lives as having flavor and so they will make up experiences or consider themselves the experts on whatever experience they&#8217;re co-opting.</p>
<p>My husband recently attended a hip-hop conference and damn near all the expert authors were white so&#8230;it&#8217;s nothing new.</p>
<p>What we have to do is spread the word whenever we read something authentically written rather than giving press to these wannabees.    Speaking of Bees, I hear that The Secret Lives of Bees, a novel written by a white woman is being made into the movie and I think Queen Latifah is one of the stars.  The thing about the book is that this little white girl shows up in these Black women beekeepers lives &#8220;back in the day&#8221; and basically ruins everything.  Yet it gets recommended as a wonderful story.</p>
<p>Fiction writers have license to write whatever they can imagine, I just think the best books come out of authenticity some where.  There are writers of color who write books that are inauthentic and miss the mark, too.</p>
<p>Angry on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Saladin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saladin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, before someone scolds me, my percentage is of course meant to be hyperbolic.  Of course there are good numbers of white people living in rough neighborhoods and good numbers of nonwhite people living in nice neighborhoods.  But the question of which &#039;hood stories&#039; are found &#039;fascinating&#039; by the literati remains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, before someone scolds me, my percentage is of course meant to be hyperbolic.  Of course there are good numbers of white people living in rough neighborhoods and good numbers of nonwhite people living in nice neighborhoods.  But the question of which &#8216;hood stories&#8217; are found &#8216;fascinating&#8217; by the literati remains.</p>
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