Comments on: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. http://theangryblackwoman.com/2008/03/04/you-keep-using-that-word-i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means/ Race, Politics, Gender, Sexuality, Anger Wed, 23 May 2012 23:58:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Fighting Evan Mulvihill's racist speech http://theangryblackwoman.com/2008/03/04/you-keep-using-that-word-i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1/#comment-5143 Fighting Evan Mulvihill's racist speech Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:58:29 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-5143 Love the blog! Keep up the good fight! Love the blog! Keep up the good fight!

]]> By: Tina http://theangryblackwoman.com/2008/03/04/you-keep-using-that-word-i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1/#comment-5127 Tina Fri, 21 Mar 2008 04:53:48 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-5127 Loved the piece. The ending was great. But, I'm definitely on the outskirts of the Mencia fan wagon. Katt Williams, Monique, and especially Mencia are not what I would call satirists. More like absolutely serious versions of bamboozled characters- the kind of people who wake up and go to sleep never knowing they're playing that role. Has anyone ever really listened to Carlos Mencia? That man would hold a bleaching cream party for his children just to make sure they couldn't be mistaken for black folks..He'd sell his mother to hold a blonde's hand..Whereas Katt thinks the essence of being black is violence and pimping. And, Monique thinks she is supposed to obese, crude, and materialistic, because she is a black woman. There are black comedians who do an wonderful job of mixing satire intelligence and still don't end up looking like shufflin' human beings. Another blog commentary could address the reasons why like publishers, source like Comedy central, also filter through POC comedy.. only allowing the door open for certain folks. Loved the piece. The ending was great. But, I’m definitely on the outskirts of the Mencia fan wagon. Katt Williams, Monique, and especially Mencia are not what I would call satirists. More like absolutely serious versions of bamboozled characters- the kind of people who wake up and go to sleep never knowing they’re playing that role. Has anyone ever really listened to Carlos Mencia? That man would hold a bleaching cream party for his children just to make sure they couldn’t be mistaken for black folks..He’d sell his mother to hold a blonde’s hand..Whereas Katt thinks the essence of being black is violence and pimping. And, Monique thinks she is supposed to obese, crude, and materialistic, because she is a black woman. There are black comedians who do an wonderful job of mixing satire intelligence and still don’t end up looking like shufflin’ human beings. Another blog commentary could address the reasons why like publishers, source like Comedy central, also filter through POC comedy.. only allowing the door open for certain folks.

]]> By: Roddikinsathome http://theangryblackwoman.com/2008/03/04/you-keep-using-that-word-i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1/#comment-5145 Roddikinsathome Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:35:30 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-5145 And just for more pilin' on, Mr. Mencia just ain't funny. He's getting paid (G_ddess knows why), but he ain't funny. So the authour of yonder field guide to race-isms ALSO has no taste. By the way, N. either we're related, or I'm falling hard for ya. peace, Rod "Gravity sucks, but not as hard as Pat Boone." And just for more pilin’ on, Mr. Mencia just
ain’t funny. He’s getting paid (G_ddess knows
why), but he ain’t funny. So the authour of
yonder field guide to race-isms ALSO has no
taste. By the way, N. either we’re related, or
I’m falling hard for ya.
peace,
Rod
“Gravity sucks, but not as hard as Pat Boone.”

]]> By: Michelle http://theangryblackwoman.com/2008/03/04/you-keep-using-that-word-i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1/#comment-5126 Michelle Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:49:48 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-5126 Yes yes yes...*this* is why "Family Guy" is not satire, no matter how often the white boy creators and white boy fans insist it is. Yes yes yes…*this* is why “Family Guy” is not satire, no matter how often the white boy creators and white boy fans insist it is.

]]> By: Vincent http://theangryblackwoman.com/2008/03/04/you-keep-using-that-word-i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1/#comment-5128 Vincent Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:20:15 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-5128 just found your site. great blog. just found your site. great blog.

]]> By: bellatrys http://theangryblackwoman.com/2008/03/04/you-keep-using-that-word-i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1/#comment-5129 bellatrys Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:44:47 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-5129 The Onion piece might be funny, would be satirical if they went into a white yuppie neighborhood and described it in faux-anthropologist pith-helmety tones so that it all looked more alien than 19th-c Timbuktu - an activity I sometimes do sotto voce at the mall, frex, because I do find my own culture and our norms to be surreal. But as it is, it's like the Abercrombie & Fitch shits - shirts, I mean. Same Old, Same Old is neither ironic nor subversive - nor, usually, even at all funny. (I know way too many white guys who do think they're oppressed by not being "allowed" to make fun of women/other ethnic groups/GLBT people - not all of them conservative Republicans, either, unfortunately.) The Onion piece might be funny, would be satirical if they went into a white yuppie neighborhood and described it in faux-anthropologist pith-helmety tones so that it all looked more alien than 19th-c Timbuktu – an activity I sometimes do sotto voce at the mall, frex, because I do find my own culture and our norms to be surreal. But as it is, it’s like the Abercrombie & Fitch shits – shirts, I mean. Same Old, Same Old is neither ironic nor subversive – nor, usually, even at all funny.

(I know way too many white guys who do think they’re oppressed by not being “allowed” to make fun of women/other ethnic groups/GLBT people – not all of them conservative Republicans, either, unfortunately.)

]]> By: daisydeadhead http://theangryblackwoman.com/2008/03/04/you-keep-using-that-word-i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1/#comment-5144 daisydeadhead Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:29:11 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-5144 Katie, you are the first person I've read who thought the same thing I did about the Onion piece, so thanks for the validation. Katie, you are the first person I’ve read who thought the same thing I did about the Onion piece, so thanks for the validation.

]]> By: Sylvie http://theangryblackwoman.com/2008/03/04/you-keep-using-that-word-i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1/#comment-5142 Sylvie Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:47:18 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-5142 Your post is the best response I've read to that editorial. And props for the Princess Bride reference. Your post is the best response I’ve read to that editorial.

And props for the Princess Bride reference.

]]> By: Aaminah http://theangryblackwoman.com/2008/03/04/you-keep-using-that-word-i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1/#comment-5141 Aaminah Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:16:34 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-5141 I am constantly amazed at people who will say "but why did you think it was funny when Mencia said it but it's not okay for me to say it - that's racist!". Duh, it's the POWER issue - I'm so glad you discuss this and what makes satire satire. At the same time (and not trying to derail your excellent analysis) some of us do find people like Mencia very not funny. Some people have better skills at satire than others. We can argue all day over who we like and don't like, so I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, just giving personal opinion. Dave Chapelle - VERY FUNNY, very skilled at satire. Carlos Mencia - not so funny, not good at satire, low quality humor. And he doesn't stick to just mocking "his own" but trashes all other PoC which essentially makes him not better than any other racist. The power issue isn't there, but it's still morally wrong, you know? I am constantly amazed at people who will say “but why did you think it was funny when Mencia said it but it’s not okay for me to say it – that’s racist!”. Duh, it’s the POWER issue – I’m so glad you discuss this and what makes satire satire.

At the same time (and not trying to derail your excellent analysis) some of us do find people like Mencia very not funny. Some people have better skills at satire than others. We can argue all day over who we like and don’t like, so I’m not trying to hurt anyone’s feelings, just giving personal opinion. Dave Chapelle – VERY FUNNY, very skilled at satire. Carlos Mencia – not so funny, not good at satire, low quality humor. And he doesn’t stick to just mocking “his own” but trashes all other PoC which essentially makes him not better than any other racist. The power issue isn’t there, but it’s still morally wrong, you know?

]]> By: adrian http://theangryblackwoman.com/2008/03/04/you-keep-using-that-word-i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1/#comment-5140 adrian Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:15:31 +0000 http://theangryblackwoman.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-5140 love the ending, so right on. love the ending, so right on.

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