Sorry if you got my stance wrong I would not pretend that English is one of my best subjects (smile) I appreciate your comment and I totally understand what you were saying I want to say once again that I do not consent to domestic violence at all I was not trying to paint a pretty picture of Ike; however, I experienced a different side of Ike the one that was reformed. Moreover, his childhood did cater to his adulthood, like a majority of minority’s we do not receive therapy for our problems our pride enables us to simply sweep it under the rug! I met and experienced the positive side of Ike and I have learned that he was a troubled man with a heart of gold and I just wanted people to know more about the goodness that he possessed”.

With that said – good people, don’t BEAT their WIVES. You may have found him to be a wonderful person – good for you. The fact still remains that he was abusive and put Tina Turner through intolerable conditions.

Should I really care that he was abused, so as a result, that makes it okay? Hardly. It is NEVER okay to abuse a woman because of what happened to you in the past.

No one here is implying that he’s the devil. At all. But what we are saying is that he should be remembered as being someone who had some serious mental problems and beat his wife, and that musical contributions pale in comparison to having any sort of humanity.

For all of us so called holy Black Folks…May I ask everyone a question? What have the church taught us
about forgiving? Do we practice it ?…hmmm when I sin I ask the Lord for forgiveness. Should we forget, no! Ozzy Osborne wife was abused by him he’s a White Rock Star for those of you who don’t know but does it make him better than Ike? It wasn’t as publicized as Ike and Tina. Did Ike pay for his sin? Hell Yes he was destroyed in the United Staes he couldn’t make a dollar in the States and he was treated like shit! He asked for it because he put it out there but does that make him the devil? He had more goodness in him than bad but you would never know it unless you were to meet him and to meet him was to love him-

First, I would like to say that I do not consent to physical or Verbal abuse inflicted upon anyone! I would like to say that I come from a God fearing Mother of whom taught meto be a lady and not a punching bag! When a friend of mine asked me to work for her boss Ike Turner I told her hell NO!
She said Do not judge him before you meet him, he is not whopeople think he is; I said okay I want to see for myself and Idid just that and in the words of my mother she always said never judge a book by its cover, so I went in with and open mind and I must say I was truly impressed! Ike was the sweetest “little man” I have ever had the pleasure of knowing” I
couldn’t believe that he was the same man that was depicted in the movie? That was until we had our first argument!! I said to myself, damn he’s Bipolar! Did I bow down to him? Hell no I let him have it and a few minutes later, he appologized I Said Mr. Turner I am your Assistant and I am not Tina! So do not
talk to me like that ever again! From then on I learned that Ike was sexually abused by two neighborhood women from the age of 6 to 13 and he never received therapy for it! He HAS apologized for hurting Tina and he has cried many nights because of the pain that he has caused will he ever be forgiven? Maybe never but for the record I will always cherish the good side of Ike Turner, the Ike that fed
clothed and paid strangers rent!

I have a problem, not with the core of your argument*, but with where and why you’re making it. You’ve pointed out that white artists who beat their wives get special treatment compared to black artists who do the same. You’re right to point it out; it’s true. This suggests one of two solutions: either give black artists the same special treatment, or express the same outrage when white artists kick the bucket and are given the “but he was a great artist” treatment.

Hopefully you see the problem with trying to give black artists special treatment. If it’s racist to treat abusive black men differently, it’s also pretty damn racist to ignore the suffering of the (usually) black women they beat.

So let’s run with calling the same attention to white abusers. I agree; we should. But since you’re saying this on a site run by a black feminist, who has an extensive record of griping about abusers of any race, I’m a little confused. The people who are giving the white artists a free pass are the mainstream media, or racist and sexist bloggers. So why aren’t you posting this rant on one of those sites?

See, the way I see it, there’s also racism (and sexism) involved in the knee-jerk way some people love to accuse black women of racism when they raise criticisms of black men. Too often, the accusation of racism gets used as a tactic to silence those women, even if their criticism is justified.

Now, I’m aware that black people (male or female) are perfectly capable of internalizing racism. But not all criticism represents self-hatred; some of it represents self-love. Black people who love themselves and want their people to progress must offer criticism, especially when they see their people doing stupid shit, because how else will things get better? Keeping our dirty laundry hidden hasn’t worked up to now, so clearly we have to try something different. Frankly, it’s more problematic to insist that black people not examine themselves critically; after enduring generations of racism, the only way we can purge ourselves of this crap is to talk about it. (Black Fitness Queen, it’ll change if we stop accepting it, and work to make it change. Plain and simple.)

There’s a wide, not thin, line between racist and antiracist criticism. When a person has a history of positive activism to judge, as ABW does, the difference should be obvious. If you can’t tell, and you honestly think that ranting at ABW is more productive than ranting at NBC, or on some other site that has not proven itself antiracist… then I have to wonder who has truly internalized some racism here.

*I have a serious problem with your name-calling. I’m not sure who you’re ranting at — you’re a little incoherent here — but please remember that ad-hominem attacks aren’t allowed. This is your only warning.