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		<title>By: MeMees</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/11/27/on-feminism-1/comment-page-2/#comment-4354</link>
		<dc:creator>MeMees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read it, but I cant agree.
I enjoy feminism, because of its use to me. It&#039;s  the first time I EVER heard women talk about the issues relating to them and thier lives.  Its also one of the few times women talk about thier issues and are heard with any legitimacy ( in other words , ppl care to listen). White, black, Yellow, Brown, Red whatever race.
Or maybe its just what Ive been exposed to, Even with liberal colleges, things are censored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read it, but I cant agree.<br />
I enjoy feminism, because of its use to me. It&#8217;s  the first time I EVER heard women talk about the issues relating to them and thier lives.  Its also one of the few times women talk about thier issues and are heard with any legitimacy ( in other words , ppl care to listen). White, black, Yellow, Brown, Red whatever race.<br />
Or maybe its just what Ive been exposed to, Even with liberal colleges, things are censored.</p>
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		<title>By: Feminist Blog Brouhaha: Feminists vs Women of Color</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/11/27/on-feminism-1/comment-page-2/#comment-4453</link>
		<dc:creator>Feminist Blog Brouhaha: Feminists vs Women of Color</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] so many months ago I commented on the Angry Black Woman&#8217;s blog in a thread on feminism, expressing shock and dismay at the anger directed at white feminists. In my naivete I assumed that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] so many months ago I commented on the Angry Black Woman&rsquo;s blog in a thread on feminism, expressing shock and dismay at the anger directed at white feminists. In my naivete I assumed that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: On Feminism, Part 2 &#171; The Angry Black Woman</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/11/27/on-feminism-1/comment-page-1/#comment-4452</link>
		<dc:creator>On Feminism, Part 2 &#171; The Angry Black Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On Feminism, Part&#160;2  Posted on April 28, 2008 by the angry black woman   I bet you don&#8217;t remember part 1, do you? Here&#8217;s a reminder. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On Feminism, Part&nbsp;2  Posted on April 28, 2008 by the angry black woman   I bet you don&#8217;t remember part 1, do you? Here&#8217;s a reminder. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: An Open Letter to the White Feminist Community: &#171; Dear white feminists,</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Open Letter to the White Feminist Community: &#171; Dear white feminists,</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] so many months ago I commented on the Angry Black Woman&#8217;s blog in a thread on feminism, expressing shock and dismay at the anger directed at white feminists. In my naivete I assumed that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] so many months ago I commented on the Angry Black Woman&#8217;s blog in a thread on feminism, expressing shock and dismay at the anger directed at white feminists. In my naivete I assumed that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jarod HM</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/11/27/on-feminism-1/comment-page-1/#comment-4363</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarod HM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 10:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to address Aminah&#039;s  response to my post. The books for Leila Ahmed that I suggested were from my class reading list for my graduate seminar on Women&#039;s Movement&#039;s in the Middle East and North Africa. The class was designed and taught by Dr. Sallama Shaker - a leading Egyptian diplomat and a practicing Muslim. Although I take full responsibility for how I characterized the text, I do base by positive recommendation on hers. Thus to dismiss me as someone who is speaking out of some vacuum about Islam is not only no true but sad. If there cannot be a complex discussion about the various positions held by women in the Muslim community, there will continue to be small-minded bigotry in the greater non-Muslim community. So, am I banned to silence about Islam because I do not practice the faith? I never made the claim that Ahmed was any sort of spokesperson for the entire Muslim community, but it is a place to start a dialog informed by facts. Ahmed&#039;s first goal to unpack the historical context surrounding this issues. To respond to sacrosanct, I find it problematic that someone becomes unscholarly as soon as they present issues that do not agree with yours. The dialog needs to start somewhere, and I do see anyone else providing constructive solutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to address Aminah&#8217;s  response to my post. The books for Leila Ahmed that I suggested were from my class reading list for my graduate seminar on Women&#8217;s Movement&#8217;s in the Middle East and North Africa. The class was designed and taught by Dr. Sallama Shaker &#8211; a leading Egyptian diplomat and a practicing Muslim. Although I take full responsibility for how I characterized the text, I do base by positive recommendation on hers. Thus to dismiss me as someone who is speaking out of some vacuum about Islam is not only no true but sad. If there cannot be a complex discussion about the various positions held by women in the Muslim community, there will continue to be small-minded bigotry in the greater non-Muslim community. So, am I banned to silence about Islam because I do not practice the faith? I never made the claim that Ahmed was any sort of spokesperson for the entire Muslim community, but it is a place to start a dialog informed by facts. Ahmed&#8217;s first goal to unpack the historical context surrounding this issues. To respond to sacrosanct, I find it problematic that someone becomes unscholarly as soon as they present issues that do not agree with yours. The dialog needs to start somewhere, and I do see anyone else providing constructive solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Veronica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veronica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I&#039;m concerned, using the term &quot;feminazi&quot; is an automatic Godwin.  For all their faults, feminist groups have never committed wholesale genocide and murdered millions of people, nor have the advocated doing so.  It&#039;s a specious comparison that&#039;s insulting to the victims of the Nazis as well as to feminists.

&lt;i&gt;white women have ALWAYS had white males at their beck and call &lt;/i&gt;

I guess that&#039;s why white women have never been raped by white men, or beaten by them, or institutionalized by them, or sexually harrassed by them, or prevented from owning property, or any of that.  That&#039;s a relief.

It&#039;s one thing to discuss the very real ways in which the feminist movement has in the past and continues to abandon non-white women.  It&#039;s another to claim that white women don&#039;t suffer from misogyny.  That&#039;s simply untrue.

Feminists supported Clinton because he was better on feminist issues than the Republicans.  Just like every other group on the political scene, they get their hands dirty--we have to be the only angels at the table in DC?  And you&#039;re simply incorrect about Hollywood--feminists have been campaigning against the misogyny in mainstream films for decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned, using the term &#8220;feminazi&#8221; is an automatic Godwin.  For all their faults, feminist groups have never committed wholesale genocide and murdered millions of people, nor have the advocated doing so.  It&#8217;s a specious comparison that&#8217;s insulting to the victims of the Nazis as well as to feminists.</p>
<p><i>white women have ALWAYS had white males at their beck and call </i></p>
<p>I guess that&#8217;s why white women have never been raped by white men, or beaten by them, or institutionalized by them, or sexually harrassed by them, or prevented from owning property, or any of that.  That&#8217;s a relief.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing to discuss the very real ways in which the feminist movement has in the past and continues to abandon non-white women.  It&#8217;s another to claim that white women don&#8217;t suffer from misogyny.  That&#8217;s simply untrue.</p>
<p>Feminists supported Clinton because he was better on feminist issues than the Republicans.  Just like every other group on the political scene, they get their hands dirty&#8211;we have to be the only angels at the table in DC?  And you&#8217;re simply incorrect about Hollywood&#8211;feminists have been campaigning against the misogyny in mainstream films for decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angel H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lmay:

What&#039;s wrong with you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lmay:</p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong with you?</p>
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		<title>By: Lmary</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/11/27/on-feminism-1/comment-page-1/#comment-4437</link>
		<dc:creator>Lmary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as much barn burning as they do let&#039;s not forget these are still their fathers,brothers,husbands,sons,grandpas,nephews, and so-in-laws so spare me the they fought for all of you claptrap. Bottom line white women have ALWAYS had white males at their beck and call so there &#039;climb&#039; out of the pit of discrimination was not a very high one. Case in point Bill Clinton a male who exhibited almost EVERY behavior that the feminuts supposedly are so disgusted by yet they fought to the death to defend him why. Because he&#039;s in their back pocket another example I read someone refer to the &#039;retarded&#039; rappers who frankly aren&#039;t ANY more misogynist than a lot of Hollywood filmmakers yet the feminots don&#039;t attack them why. Because they contribute big bucks to their oragnization so maybe you should question how the same group of &#039;activists&#039; who are supposedly so down for &#039;fighting the good fight&#039; will willing prostitute themselves out to get it. Don&#039;t use your sex to get your way THEN turn around and bitch about sexism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as much barn burning as they do let&#8217;s not forget these are still their fathers,brothers,husbands,sons,grandpas,nephews, and so-in-laws so spare me the they fought for all of you claptrap. Bottom line white women have ALWAYS had white males at their beck and call so there &#8216;climb&#8217; out of the pit of discrimination was not a very high one. Case in point Bill Clinton a male who exhibited almost EVERY behavior that the feminuts supposedly are so disgusted by yet they fought to the death to defend him why. Because he&#8217;s in their back pocket another example I read someone refer to the &#8216;retarded&#8217; rappers who frankly aren&#8217;t ANY more misogynist than a lot of Hollywood filmmakers yet the feminots don&#8217;t attack them why. Because they contribute big bucks to their oragnization so maybe you should question how the same group of &#8216;activists&#8217; who are supposedly so down for &#8216;fighting the good fight&#8217; will willing prostitute themselves out to get it. Don&#8217;t use your sex to get your way THEN turn around and bitch about sexism.</p>
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		<title>By: Lmary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lmary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sandra77 your commetns are laughable the fact is that attitude of &#039;let&#039;s worry about US first&#039; is the very reason women of color can&#039;t relate to the Feminazi movement. And now is just about the agenda the feminots have NEVER cared about women of color and I&#039;m not saying they should but at the same time don&#039;t blither blather about &#039;all women&#039; when want you REALLY mean is ones just like you. Who share your economic status,neighborhood,educational background,age, and most importantly skin color.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sandra77 your commetns are laughable the fact is that attitude of &#8216;let&#8217;s worry about US first&#8217; is the very reason women of color can&#8217;t relate to the Feminazi movement. And now is just about the agenda the feminots have NEVER cared about women of color and I&#8217;m not saying they should but at the same time don&#8217;t blither blather about &#8216;all women&#8217; when want you REALLY mean is ones just like you. Who share your economic status,neighborhood,educational background,age, and most importantly skin color.</p>
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		<title>By: Ico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 14:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bluewatcher, I did read Aaminah&#039;s entire post before responding to it.

&quot;Does this “feminism” really align with “equal rights for all human beings”?&quot;

In my mind?  Yes.  But we have already established that my definition of feminism is based on feminist theory, which (at least in the stuff I have read) recognizes the intersectionality of race, gender, sexuality, etc.  Aaminah&#039;s (and others&#039;) is based on the attitudes and history of the feminist movement.

Thank you for the link to brownfemipower&#039;s post.  This is the kind of thing the feminist movement needs a LOT more of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bluewatcher, I did read Aaminah&#8217;s entire post before responding to it.</p>
<p>&#8220;Does this “feminism” really align with “equal rights for all human beings”?&#8221;</p>
<p>In my mind?  Yes.  But we have already established that my definition of feminism is based on feminist theory, which (at least in the stuff I have read) recognizes the intersectionality of race, gender, sexuality, etc.  Aaminah&#8217;s (and others&#8217;) is based on the attitudes and history of the feminist movement.</p>
<p>Thank you for the link to brownfemipower&#8217;s post.  This is the kind of thing the feminist movement needs a LOT more of.</p>
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