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		<title>By: Damiko Tidmore</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/11/10/inconceivable/comment-page-1/#comment-4175</link>
		<dc:creator>Damiko Tidmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>web will be up again soon.  anyway my last name is tidmore and I was looking around on the web and was directed here for the name tidmore by someone on the site.  Just looking to try to find more Black Tidmore&#039;s around.  In Columbus, my grandmother and myself are all that&#039;s left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>web will be up again soon.  anyway my last name is tidmore and I was looking around on the web and was directed here for the name tidmore by someone on the site.  Just looking to try to find more Black Tidmore&#8217;s around.  In Columbus, my grandmother and myself are all that&#8217;s left.</p>
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		<title>By: definitive.dot</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/11/10/inconceivable/comment-page-1/#comment-4209</link>
		<dc:creator>definitive.dot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 02:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This season some more black characters were introduced:

Micah&#039;s Grandmother: Played by Nichelle Nichols, barely gets to speak at all.

Monica, Nikki&#039;s Niece: Has the potential to be a substantial character, but thus far the only notable storyline involves her being kidnapped by Random Black Thugs, who try to burn her to death for no good reason, and then she is saved by Nikki, who doesn&#039;t even have super strength anymore, yet has to rescue the black girl.

Micah&#039;s Cousin: Not sure if he even has a name, but he&#039;s stupid and ill-mannered and seems to represent stereotypical black male youth. That&#039;s how I see him.

So that&#039;s still 1 respectable Black character, after the way they built Monica up only to tear her down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This season some more black characters were introduced:</p>
<p>Micah&#8217;s Grandmother: Played by Nichelle Nichols, barely gets to speak at all.</p>
<p>Monica, Nikki&#8217;s Niece: Has the potential to be a substantial character, but thus far the only notable storyline involves her being kidnapped by Random Black Thugs, who try to burn her to death for no good reason, and then she is saved by Nikki, who doesn&#8217;t even have super strength anymore, yet has to rescue the black girl.</p>
<p>Micah&#8217;s Cousin: Not sure if he even has a name, but he&#8217;s stupid and ill-mannered and seems to represent stereotypical black male youth. That&#8217;s how I see him.</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s still 1 respectable Black character, after the way they built Monica up only to tear her down.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/11/10/inconceivable/comment-page-1/#comment-4177</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have noticed that &quot;certain people&quot; never seem to notice racism even when it is pretty blatant.  There aren&#039;t many black people in any major network program, so that isn&#039;t really the complaint.  The fact that there aren&#039;t many of them just makes the stereotyping all the more obvious.  Here is a quick walkthrough of ALL of the black people that I have seen so far on &quot;Heroes&quot;...

(1)Old Guy in Wheelchair from Season 1:  Character of little/no consequence.  Killed off early in the season.

(2)The Haitian:  Mute black man taking orders from white superiors.  If he&#039;s not taking orders from Claire&#039;s dad.. Then in the future(5 Years Gone) he&#039;s taking orders from the idiot Cop.

(3)Peter &amp; The Psychic Painter&#039;s &quot;Girlfriend&quot;:  Black woman.  The only licentious character on the show.  Killed off, but not before dating the junkie and then sleeping with Peter.  Again.. not a hero and not a particularly likable character.

(4)Nikki&#039;s Husband:  Black convict.  Flawed hero.  Neither prominent nor important.  Sure, his wife is a hero, but she&#039;s also a stripper/prostitute(?)  His most prominent moment in the show is when he &quot;loyally&quot; takes bullet for Niki.

(6) Black Cheerleader:  An extra.  Bad Guy.  One of the evil cheerleaders.  Non-character; just prominently placed in the cheerleader scene of season 2 episode one to be seen and despised.

(7)Black Thug in Ireland:  Non-hero.  Bad guy.  Beats up Peter.  Again non-speaking black man taking orders from white superiors.  See also Haitian supra.

(8)Nikki&#039;s Biracial Son:  No problems with him.  He&#039;s the exception that proves the rule.

There aren&#039;t many blacks that have been in the show at all and these are their roles.  Only 1 out of the only 8 black characters in twenty-four episodes I&#039;ve seen seems to be respectable.  Tell me I&#039;m wrong.

See also abc&#039;s Lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have noticed that &#8220;certain people&#8221; never seem to notice racism even when it is pretty blatant.  There aren&#8217;t many black people in any major network program, so that isn&#8217;t really the complaint.  The fact that there aren&#8217;t many of them just makes the stereotyping all the more obvious.  Here is a quick walkthrough of ALL of the black people that I have seen so far on &#8220;Heroes&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>(1)Old Guy in Wheelchair from Season 1:  Character of little/no consequence.  Killed off early in the season.</p>
<p>(2)The Haitian:  Mute black man taking orders from white superiors.  If he&#8217;s not taking orders from Claire&#8217;s dad.. Then in the future(5 Years Gone) he&#8217;s taking orders from the idiot Cop.</p>
<p>(3)Peter &amp; The Psychic Painter&#8217;s &#8220;Girlfriend&#8221;:  Black woman.  The only licentious character on the show.  Killed off, but not before dating the junkie and then sleeping with Peter.  Again.. not a hero and not a particularly likable character.</p>
<p>(4)Nikki&#8217;s Husband:  Black convict.  Flawed hero.  Neither prominent nor important.  Sure, his wife is a hero, but she&#8217;s also a stripper/prostitute(?)  His most prominent moment in the show is when he &#8220;loyally&#8221; takes bullet for Niki.</p>
<p>(6) Black Cheerleader:  An extra.  Bad Guy.  One of the evil cheerleaders.  Non-character; just prominently placed in the cheerleader scene of season 2 episode one to be seen and despised.</p>
<p>(7)Black Thug in Ireland:  Non-hero.  Bad guy.  Beats up Peter.  Again non-speaking black man taking orders from white superiors.  See also Haitian supra.</p>
<p>(8)Nikki&#8217;s Biracial Son:  No problems with him.  He&#8217;s the exception that proves the rule.</p>
<p>There aren&#8217;t many blacks that have been in the show at all and these are their roles.  Only 1 out of the only 8 black characters in twenty-four episodes I&#8217;ve seen seems to be respectable.  Tell me I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
<p>See also abc&#8217;s Lost.</p>
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		<title>By: definitive.dot</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/11/10/inconceivable/comment-page-1/#comment-4190</link>
		<dc:creator>definitive.dot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think no one knows The Haitian’s name, b/c he doesn’t want them to know. &lt;/i&gt;

We the viewers don&#039;t know The Haitian&#039;s name because the writers didn&#039;t see fit to give him one. This secures his magical status. Not only have they failed to give him a name, he also has no history, no family, no friends, no desires, no aspirations, no loves, no LIFE separate from the white people that he serves. This distinguishes him from, say, HRG, who got to be a complex, layered person even when we didn&#039;t know his name.

&lt;i&gt;He can also erase anyone’s powers within his limits. Outside of Peter, (or maybe inside) he is the most powerful one of them all.&lt;/i&gt;

I know, it&#039;s awesome isn&#039;t it? But of course, he never uses his powers for any aims of his own. He has no motivation other than to serve the more important, white characters. His morals are also questionable, and that&#039;s the most depth that he has, questionable morals. He doesn&#039;t interfere when other people do bad things, he does not really assist when people do good things, and he never decides to do good or bad things on his own....&lt;b&gt;except when it would serve the aims of the white people who have his loyalty.&lt;/b&gt; So he&#039;ll help Peter escape the company...because he&#039;s loyal to Peter&#039;s family.

And now that Peter&#039;s been around him, presumably Peter has his power now too.

&lt;i&gt;He’s tied into Petrelli’s mom for sure. He does work for the company, but only really when he wants.&lt;/i&gt;

The only time he doesn&#039;t work for the company is when the company&#039;s goals interfere with the goals of HRG or Mama Petrelli. The Haitian has no goals of his own. Whatever motivations he has are kept hidden from us.

Right now Monica is my only hope for any kind of well-rounded woman on Heroes. Weepy killer Maya is already under the spell of a white man, Sylar. And of course, she is the stereotypical overly emotional woman, but her hysterics kill. I find myself constantly saying, &quot;Jeez, just calm down Maya&quot;.

Niki is insane, and the less I say about Claire and West, the better. Mama Petrelli would surely be interesting indeed, but we don&#039;t even know what her power is. She doesn&#039;t get to be a &quot;hero&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think no one knows The Haitian’s name, b/c he doesn’t want them to know. </i></p>
<p>We the viewers don&#8217;t know The Haitian&#8217;s name because the writers didn&#8217;t see fit to give him one. This secures his magical status. Not only have they failed to give him a name, he also has no history, no family, no friends, no desires, no aspirations, no loves, no LIFE separate from the white people that he serves. This distinguishes him from, say, HRG, who got to be a complex, layered person even when we didn&#8217;t know his name.</p>
<p><i>He can also erase anyone’s powers within his limits. Outside of Peter, (or maybe inside) he is the most powerful one of them all.</i></p>
<p>I know, it&#8217;s awesome isn&#8217;t it? But of course, he never uses his powers for any aims of his own. He has no motivation other than to serve the more important, white characters. His morals are also questionable, and that&#8217;s the most depth that he has, questionable morals. He doesn&#8217;t interfere when other people do bad things, he does not really assist when people do good things, and he never decides to do good or bad things on his own&#8230;.<b>except when it would serve the aims of the white people who have his loyalty.</b> So he&#8217;ll help Peter escape the company&#8230;because he&#8217;s loyal to Peter&#8217;s family.</p>
<p>And now that Peter&#8217;s been around him, presumably Peter has his power now too.</p>
<p><i>He’s tied into Petrelli’s mom for sure. He does work for the company, but only really when he wants.</i></p>
<p>The only time he doesn&#8217;t work for the company is when the company&#8217;s goals interfere with the goals of HRG or Mama Petrelli. The Haitian has no goals of his own. Whatever motivations he has are kept hidden from us.</p>
<p>Right now Monica is my only hope for any kind of well-rounded woman on Heroes. Weepy killer Maya is already under the spell of a white man, Sylar. And of course, she is the stereotypical overly emotional woman, but her hysterics kill. I find myself constantly saying, &#8220;Jeez, just calm down Maya&#8221;.</p>
<p>Niki is insane, and the less I say about Claire and West, the better. Mama Petrelli would surely be interesting indeed, but we don&#8217;t even know what her power is. She doesn&#8217;t get to be a &#8220;hero&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Roxie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roxie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think no one knows The Haitian’s name, b/c he doesn’t want them to know. He can implant and take out any memories he’d like. He can also erase anyone’s powers within his limits. Outside of Peter, (or maybe inside) he is the most powerful one of them all.

Hell, he could make you even forget you HAD powers a la Peter.

He’s tied into Petrelli’s mom for sure. He does work for the company, but only really when he wants. It’s obvious the company doesn’t know crap about him. He’s got them under some kind of control

Other than that, agreed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think no one knows The Haitian’s name, b/c he doesn’t want them to know. He can implant and take out any memories he’d like. He can also erase anyone’s powers within his limits. Outside of Peter, (or maybe inside) he is the most powerful one of them all.</p>
<p>Hell, he could make you even forget you HAD powers a la Peter.</p>
<p>He’s tied into Petrelli’s mom for sure. He does work for the company, but only really when he wants. It’s obvious the company doesn’t know crap about him. He’s got them under some kind of control</p>
<p>Other than that, agreed</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/11/10/inconceivable/comment-page-1/#comment-4176</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to see overt sexism and racism in a show about the construction of difference.  I think this last episode had interesting references to the treatment of &quot;other&quot; people in the medical system, the legal system, and in society in general, but they fail to translate that commentary onto their real-life societal &quot;others&quot; on their show.  Their hypocrisy is depressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to see overt sexism and racism in a show about the construction of difference.  I think this last episode had interesting references to the treatment of &#8220;other&#8221; people in the medical system, the legal system, and in society in general, but they fail to translate that commentary onto their real-life societal &#8220;others&#8221; on their show.  Their hypocrisy is depressing.</p>
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		<title>By: the angry black woman</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/11/10/inconceivable/comment-page-1/#comment-4210</link>
		<dc:creator>the angry black woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so mad about DL right now I can&#039;t even post about it.  It&#039;s like Simone all over again.  The only reason I&#039;m still watching this crap is because Tim Kring says that Vol. 3 will be better, and I think we have to see Vol 2 to it&#039;s end in order to deal with Vol 3.  But oh god, it&#039;s so hard.  The racism, the sexism, the bad writing, the bad acting!  Jesus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so mad about DL right now I can&#8217;t even post about it.  It&#8217;s like Simone all over again.  The only reason I&#8217;m still watching this crap is because Tim Kring says that Vol. 3 will be better, and I think we have to see Vol 2 to it&#8217;s end in order to deal with Vol 3.  But oh god, it&#8217;s so hard.  The racism, the sexism, the bad writing, the bad acting!  Jesus.</p>
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		<title>By: Achmed</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/11/10/inconceivable/comment-page-1/#comment-4181</link>
		<dc:creator>Achmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a. has tried to come down to your lower-than-pond-scum level, but you still have that chip on your shoulder.  Dickhead yesterday was a bit of a moron, but you avoided his sharp criticism and no one responded to his observations.  Next time you&#039;re in a company cafeteria, look around . . . all of the people who are being discriminated against will be in one corner . . . sitting together. . . bitching about the man.

You fuckers really don&#039;t have a clue, so as they say, Keep on Bitchin&#039;.  You&#039;ll find oodles of support here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a. has tried to come down to your lower-than-pond-scum level, but you still have that chip on your shoulder.  Dickhead yesterday was a bit of a moron, but you avoided his sharp criticism and no one responded to his observations.  Next time you&#8217;re in a company cafeteria, look around . . . all of the people who are being discriminated against will be in one corner . . . sitting together. . . bitching about the man.</p>
<p>You fuckers really don&#8217;t have a clue, so as they say, Keep on Bitchin&#8217;.  You&#8217;ll find oodles of support here.</p>
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		<title>By: Ico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A,

It&#039;s not the fact that you disagree that has people bristling.  Well, admittedly it might have some people bristling.  But that wouldn&#039;t get you moderated or anything.  There are plenty of people who disagree about these sorts of issues.

The reason for the generally unfavorable responses to yours posts is your rudeness.

Yes, rudeness.  Though you claim to seek civil discussion, your tone has been dismissive of problems that many of us feel (and some people here daily experience - you don&#039;t) to be very, very real.  Painfully so.  And by the way, not everyone disagreeing with you is seeing through a thick lens of color (some of us folks here are white too, y&#039;know).  No one is going to put up with a condescending and contemptuous tone.  That&#039;s not fostering discussion.

Be civil.  Be respectful.  Be courteous, and we can have a wonderful chat about all these issues and agree to disagree in the end.  But act like a jerk, and don&#039;t be surprised when nobody wants you around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the fact that you disagree that has people bristling.  Well, admittedly it might have some people bristling.  But that wouldn&#8217;t get you moderated or anything.  There are plenty of people who disagree about these sorts of issues.</p>
<p>The reason for the generally unfavorable responses to yours posts is your rudeness.</p>
<p>Yes, rudeness.  Though you claim to seek civil discussion, your tone has been dismissive of problems that many of us feel (and some people here daily experience &#8211; you don&#8217;t) to be very, very real.  Painfully so.  And by the way, not everyone disagreeing with you is seeing through a thick lens of color (some of us folks here are white too, y&#8217;know).  No one is going to put up with a condescending and contemptuous tone.  That&#8217;s not fostering discussion.</p>
<p>Be civil.  Be respectful.  Be courteous, and we can have a wonderful chat about all these issues and agree to disagree in the end.  But act like a jerk, and don&#8217;t be surprised when nobody wants you around.</p>
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		<title>By: Daomadan</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/11/10/inconceivable/comment-page-1/#comment-4179</link>
		<dc:creator>Daomadan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of the portrayal of black characters on Heroes: Did anyone just see what happened to D.L.?  They fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of the portrayal of black characters on Heroes: Did anyone just see what happened to D.L.?  They fail.</p>
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