Okay I’m a million years late on this, but I only saw the thread now. :P

*Ahem* Anyway, I can understand not taking PeTA seriously given their exploitation of women and others for the sake of their cause. Not cool.

But “any other animal rights organization”? Come on. Abuse of animals is wrong and most human rights activists understand this. All oppression is connected. I am an animal rights activist. I’ve also done activism with campus human rights and workers rights groups. Lots of it, as an undergrad. And I can tell you that PeTA is not representative of many people who fight hard for animal rights. Also, it takes a lot of guts — MORE than it takes to stand up for human rights, in my experience, and I have done both — to stand up for animals, because when you point out to people how cruelly we treat cows or foxes or elephants, people laugh. Oh how they laugh. And they belittle you. And I am telling you that it takes courage to say, “All right, you are laughing while these animals suffer, but cruelty is wrong, and *I* will not let it continue, even though you may laugh at me too.” Believe me I have been laughed at.

I have also been INSIDE a factory farm, and seen things and smelled things and stepped in puddles of blood and shit (literally, rivers of it) like you have most probably never seen. It is ugly. And yes, I believe in fighting against it. I support good groups full of dedicated people who do so. And just so you know, human rights gets tangled in there too. Most of the workers at this little patch of heaven I visited were migrant workers — treated poorly and paid little. It is all interconnected.

So… problems with PeTA? I think it’s despicable the way they use people. They also distort facts. They deserve intense criticism. But to dismiss the whole cause because of a bad group? Please rethink it. Sweeping generalizations don’t do anyone any good.

Have you seen what they’ve done to your online store?

is him being black possibly make the situation worse for him? maybe. does that excuse his actions? no

a famous person whether black or any other color should know better than to run an illegal dog-fighting ring from his house. he supposedly was doing some sadistic things tho those dogs for fun. come on he didn;t really need the money.

so now he has to pay for it.

am i a huge PETA fan. not at all. but i just don’t think racism is the driving force behind his persecution.

Of course all of this CRAP is racist, among so many other offensive aspects of the case…

On the positive Dule Hill plays one of the two main characters – and both characters are recognizable “smart kids” grown up (well mostly grown up).

On the other hand though the show is set in Santa Barbara it doesn’t (at least what I have seen of it so far – only a few episodes so may revisit this after I’ve seen more) show much of the very strongly Hispanic character of Santa Barbara (which is a strange place – hispanic in many parts, a college/party town downtown by the beach, and an ultra-rich haven. (My aunt and grandmother live there so I’ve spent some time there).

Anyway, I was curious your thoughts – Psych seems a positive step for the most part.

[for those who don't know me - I'm a white male - the name can lead to various assumptions]

Shannon

what’s sad is that the same horrible treatment is done to chickens, cows and pigs, but we eat these animals so no-one cares.