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		<title>By: P6</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/07/24/implicit-associations-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-3132</link>
		<dc:creator>P6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m not sure about the weapons=power thing, though. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hey, I get to pull one out of my ass once in a while...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m not sure about the weapons=power thing, though. </p></blockquote>
<p>Hey, I get to pull one out of my ass once in a while&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dianne</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/07/24/implicit-associations-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-3134</link>
		<dc:creator>Dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 09:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one, P6. Thanks. I&#039;m not sure about the weapons=power thing, though. It could be, unconscious associations being what they are, but my first conscious association with most weapons is simply fear. The attraction of danger, perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one, P6. Thanks. I&#8217;m not sure about the weapons=power thing, though. It could be, unconscious associations being what they are, but my first conscious association with most weapons is simply fear. The attraction of danger, perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: TOAC</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/07/24/implicit-associations-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-3131</link>
		<dc:creator>TOAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to say I&#039;d never heard the term gender-transcendent before, and am totally appropriating it. That is effing awesome - thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to say I&#8217;d never heard the term gender-transcendent before, and am totally appropriating it. That is effing awesome &#8211; thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: P6</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/07/24/implicit-associations-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-3133</link>
		<dc:creator>P6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I also get–consistently, repeatedly, on multiple occasions including when I’m cheating in the other direction–a strong association between whites and deadly weapons.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;d guess, with no means whatsoever of testing the hypothesis, that you have an association with weapons and &lt;i&gt;power&lt;/i&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;the main reason is probably prejudice and worse treatment of black versus white patients*. But how do I say this in a way that won’t make the journals dismiss me as a left-wing nut who sees racism everywhere?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

By listing racism last in the list of causes, for instance, &#039;Various social and institutional problems with disproportionate impact. In addition, observations, interviews and anecdotal evidence show the personal racial biases of medical staff (or whoever) weigh heavily in the outcomes.&#039;

Just list the causes they can&#039;t or won&#039;t dispute first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I also get–consistently, repeatedly, on multiple occasions including when I’m cheating in the other direction–a strong association between whites and deadly weapons.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d guess, with no means whatsoever of testing the hypothesis, that you have an association with weapons and <i>power</i>.</p>
<blockquote><p>the main reason is probably prejudice and worse treatment of black versus white patients*. But how do I say this in a way that won’t make the journals dismiss me as a left-wing nut who sees racism everywhere?</p></blockquote>
<p>By listing racism last in the list of causes, for instance, &#8216;Various social and institutional problems with disproportionate impact. In addition, observations, interviews and anecdotal evidence show the personal racial biases of medical staff (or whoever) weigh heavily in the outcomes.&#8217;</p>
<p>Just list the causes they can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t dispute first.</p>
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		<title>By: Voices Of The Feminist Blogosphere &#124; Elaine Vigneault&#8217;s Diary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Voices Of The Feminist Blogosphere &#124; Elaine Vigneault&#8217;s Diary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blogger at The Angry Black Woman thinks if the label fits, wear it: &#8220;I’ve never quite understood why people attempt to put [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen and taken the implicit bias tests before. I hope this isn&#039;t violating the don&#039;t turn this into a contest principle, but I&#039;m puzzled by my results. I seem to get a mild to moderate bias in favor of whites over blacks. Sorry, but there it is. Fairly expected for a US-American I&#039;m afraid. However, I also get--consistently, repeatedly, on multiple occasions including when I&#039;m cheating in the other direction--a strong association between whites and deadly weapons. WTF? I like white people well enough, but expect a knife in the back from them? Hmm...maybe not so inaccurate.

The problem of different treatments in black versus white patients is a nasty one. I&#039;m actually writing a paper on changes in survival for a particular type of cancer (which I can&#039;t name until the data is published and therefore considered public, so let&#039;s just call it disease X). The news for disease X is generally good. Far more people survive it now than did even 5 years ago. However, blacks who contract X are less likely than whites to be cured and the gap is widening not decreasing over time. There are some very minor possible biological reasons for this, but basically, the main reason is probably prejudice and worse treatment of black versus white patients*. But how do I say this in a way that won&#039;t make the journals dismiss me as a left-wing nut who sees racism everywhere? Yes, I know, it is everywhere, but I need to get people who don&#039;t believe that to listen to me so that they&#039;ll change their treatment strategies. If anyone has any thoughts, I&#039;d highly appreciate hearing them.

*Though this may not all be on the level of doctors&#039; prejudices. More blacks than whites have no or inadequate health insurance and blacks, particularly young men, are more likely to be incarcerated and therefore have terrible health care. Among other institutional or societal level problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen and taken the implicit bias tests before. I hope this isn&#8217;t violating the don&#8217;t turn this into a contest principle, but I&#8217;m puzzled by my results. I seem to get a mild to moderate bias in favor of whites over blacks. Sorry, but there it is. Fairly expected for a US-American I&#8217;m afraid. However, I also get&#8211;consistently, repeatedly, on multiple occasions including when I&#8217;m cheating in the other direction&#8211;a strong association between whites and deadly weapons. WTF? I like white people well enough, but expect a knife in the back from them? Hmm&#8230;maybe not so inaccurate.</p>
<p>The problem of different treatments in black versus white patients is a nasty one. I&#8217;m actually writing a paper on changes in survival for a particular type of cancer (which I can&#8217;t name until the data is published and therefore considered public, so let&#8217;s just call it disease X). The news for disease X is generally good. Far more people survive it now than did even 5 years ago. However, blacks who contract X are less likely than whites to be cured and the gap is widening not decreasing over time. There are some very minor possible biological reasons for this, but basically, the main reason is probably prejudice and worse treatment of black versus white patients*. But how do I say this in a way that won&#8217;t make the journals dismiss me as a left-wing nut who sees racism everywhere? Yes, I know, it is everywhere, but I need to get people who don&#8217;t believe that to listen to me so that they&#8217;ll change their treatment strategies. If anyone has any thoughts, I&#8217;d highly appreciate hearing them.</p>
<p>*Though this may not all be on the level of doctors&#8217; prejudices. More blacks than whites have no or inadequate health insurance and blacks, particularly young men, are more likely to be incarcerated and therefore have terrible health care. Among other institutional or societal level problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/07/24/implicit-associations-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-3108</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of the book &quot;Racism without Racists&quot; by Eduardo Bonilla where he basically did a bunch of case studies on the implicitly racist behaviors of white people, and how while none of them thought their actions were racist, they all had racist policies. What&#039;s worse is that there&#039;s no one to &quot;blame&quot; because there&#039;s no blame assigned. It&#039;s sad really. Good blog. Peace ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of the book &#8220;Racism without Racists&#8221; by Eduardo Bonilla where he basically did a bunch of case studies on the implicitly racist behaviors of white people, and how while none of them thought their actions were racist, they all had racist policies. What&#8217;s worse is that there&#8217;s no one to &#8220;blame&#8221; because there&#8217;s no blame assigned. It&#8217;s sad really. Good blog. Peace &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: P6</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/07/24/implicit-associations-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-3109</link>
		<dc:creator>P6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think *awareness* of one’s bias has nothing to do with whether you should be held responsible for it. If you’re going into a career in which you’ll be having a significant impact on other people’s lives, you have a responsibility to those people to check yourself for bias.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

On a practical basis, it hasn&#039;t been possible to check yourself for bias in this fashion until. well, the Implicit Association Test. I don&#039;t see a way to hold people responsible for what they are genuinely unaware of.

Don&#039;t mistake this for forgiveness of the flaw. I just see them like a dangerous machine I must work with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think *awareness* of one’s bias has nothing to do with whether you should be held responsible for it. If you’re going into a career in which you’ll be having a significant impact on other people’s lives, you have a responsibility to those people to check yourself for bias.</p></blockquote>
<p>On a practical basis, it hasn&#8217;t been possible to check yourself for bias in this fashion until. well, the Implicit Association Test. I don&#8217;t see a way to hold people responsible for what they are genuinely unaware of.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t mistake this for forgiveness of the flaw. I just see them like a dangerous machine I must work with.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine Vigneault</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/07/24/implicit-associations-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-3110</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine Vigneault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, those tests are testing other things, too. For example, after the racism test it has some questions about politicians. When I took it, it asked who I was planning to vote for. When my husband took it, it showed him faces of politicians and asked him to rate them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, those tests are testing other things, too. For example, after the racism test it has some questions about politicians. When I took it, it asked who I was planning to vote for. When my husband took it, it showed him faces of politicians and asked him to rate them.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine Vigneault</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/07/24/implicit-associations-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-3112</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine Vigneault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 04:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took the test. The first test it gave me was a black and white people test. Next it gave me a Jewish versus other religions test. Then it gave me Coke vs. Pepsi. What? I skipped that and took a test about rocks and trees and lines. Then I took a man and woman and science and liberal arts test. All interesting results!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took the test. The first test it gave me was a black and white people test. Next it gave me a Jewish versus other religions test. Then it gave me Coke vs. Pepsi. What? I skipped that and took a test about rocks and trees and lines. Then I took a man and woman and science and liberal arts test. All interesting results!</p>
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