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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;though there was no slavery in the North, it wasn’t a shining bastion of tolerance, either.&quot;



ABW.

I respectfully disagree with you.

Slavery did exist in the North. As a matter of fact, that is where the institution of American slavery had its genesis.

See this link:

http://www.slavenorth.com/index.html

The North has done an excellent job bamboozling the world into believing the lie that only the evil South kept black people in bondage.

The North failed to develop large-scale agrarian slavery, such as later arose in the Deep South, but that had little to do with morality and much to do with climate and economy.

North and South.

They both ahd a hand in the degradation and brutal  mistreatment of America&#039;s black citizens.

References:

&quot;Complicity: How the North Promoted, Prolonged, and Profited from Slavery&quot;, by Anne Farrow, Joel Lang, and Jenifer Frank.

&quot;Many Thousand Gone: The First Two Centuries of Slavery in North America&quot;, by Ira Berlin.

And you are right.

The North was no bastion of tolerance.

And neither was the West either, with its Black Laws of the Old West, and the many Sundown Towns that were built all across America that drove black people from pillar to post under racial covenants, racial pogroms and ethnic cleansing that no other race, save Native Americans, have ever suffered under.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;though there was no slavery in the North, it wasn’t a shining bastion of tolerance, either.&#8221;</p>
<p>ABW.</p>
<p>I respectfully disagree with you.</p>
<p>Slavery did exist in the North. As a matter of fact, that is where the institution of American slavery had its genesis.</p>
<p>See this link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slavenorth.com/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.slavenorth.com/index.html</a></p>
<p>The North has done an excellent job bamboozling the world into believing the lie that only the evil South kept black people in bondage.</p>
<p>The North failed to develop large-scale agrarian slavery, such as later arose in the Deep South, but that had little to do with morality and much to do with climate and economy.</p>
<p>North and South.</p>
<p>They both ahd a hand in the degradation and brutal  mistreatment of America&#8217;s black citizens.</p>
<p>References:</p>
<p>&#8220;Complicity: How the North Promoted, Prolonged, and Profited from Slavery&#8221;, by Anne Farrow, Joel Lang, and Jenifer Frank.</p>
<p>&#8220;Many Thousand Gone: The First Two Centuries of Slavery in North America&#8221;, by Ira Berlin.</p>
<p>And you are right.</p>
<p>The North was no bastion of tolerance.</p>
<p>And neither was the West either, with its Black Laws of the Old West, and the many Sundown Towns that were built all across America that drove black people from pillar to post under racial covenants, racial pogroms and ethnic cleansing that no other race, save Native Americans, have ever suffered under.</p>
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		<title>By: the angry black woman</title>
		<link>http://theangryblackwoman.com/2007/03/20/apparently-i-got-so-angry-i-dissapeared/comment-page-1/#comment-1477</link>
		<dc:creator>the angry black woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vaspers, I&#039;m going to have to disagree with your assessment.  Now, I am no fan of the Confederate flag, as I hope is clear.  But neither do I feel it should be used to wipe one&#039;s ass.  I actually don&#039;t have a problem with people taking pride in their Southern heritage as long as they do so while acknowledging the negative aspects along with the positive ones.  Northerners would do well to be the same way.  bceuae, though there was no slavery in the North, it wasn&#039;t a shining bastion of tolerance, either.  Nor is it now.  We make fun of Southerners and we look at places like Jena, LA and say &quot;The South is still just a bunch of racist rednecks.&quot;  But, honestly, the same shit goes on in the North all the time.

Which is a long way of saying that, though I disagree with most folks who would fly the Confederate flag, I don&#039;t feel their flag should be desecrated any more than I feel the American flag should be so even though I&#039;m not a huge fan of America.  I think such attitudes are unnecessarily crude.  The piece of art I wrote about in this post doesn&#039;t enter the territory of desecration, IMO, because it&#039;s commentary, not just a middle finger at the south.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vaspers, I&#8217;m going to have to disagree with your assessment.  Now, I am no fan of the Confederate flag, as I hope is clear.  But neither do I feel it should be used to wipe one&#8217;s ass.  I actually don&#8217;t have a problem with people taking pride in their Southern heritage as long as they do so while acknowledging the negative aspects along with the positive ones.  Northerners would do well to be the same way.  bceuae, though there was no slavery in the North, it wasn&#8217;t a shining bastion of tolerance, either.  Nor is it now.  We make fun of Southerners and we look at places like Jena, LA and say &#8220;The South is still just a bunch of racist rednecks.&#8221;  But, honestly, the same shit goes on in the North all the time.</p>
<p>Which is a long way of saying that, though I disagree with most folks who would fly the Confederate flag, I don&#8217;t feel their flag should be desecrated any more than I feel the American flag should be so even though I&#8217;m not a huge fan of America.  I think such attitudes are unnecessarily crude.  The piece of art I wrote about in this post doesn&#8217;t enter the territory of desecration, IMO, because it&#8217;s commentary, not just a middle finger at the south.</p>
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		<title>By: vaspers the grate</title>
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		<dc:creator>vaspers the grate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Untitled works of art simply means the artist can&#039;t think of what to call it. Not that it speaks for itself, for it cannot speak or write or dance or swim.

Ask the ghost of Derrida. I&#039;m sure he&#039;ll agree.

&quot;Not Untitled&quot; is okay, too.

:^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Untitled works of art simply means the artist can&#8217;t think of what to call it. Not that it speaks for itself, for it cannot speak or write or dance or swim.</p>
<p>Ask the ghost of Derrida. I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;ll agree.</p>
<p>&#8220;Not Untitled&#8221; is okay, too.</p>
<p>:^)</p>
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		<title>By: vaspers the grate</title>
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		<dc:creator>vaspers the grate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t BS anybody.

The Confederate Flag has only one meaning: White Supremacy.

In practice: enslave the blacks, rape their women, whip the men, keep them away from education.

The earlier version was the stars and bars as a small square in the upper left corner, upon a pure white field.

Don&#039;t let anybody kid you about what that soiled toilet paper of a flag really stands for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t BS anybody.</p>
<p>The Confederate Flag has only one meaning: White Supremacy.</p>
<p>In practice: enslave the blacks, rape their women, whip the men, keep them away from education.</p>
<p>The earlier version was the stars and bars as a small square in the upper left corner, upon a pure white field.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let anybody kid you about what that soiled toilet paper of a flag really stands for.</p>
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		<title>By: vaspers the grate</title>
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		<dc:creator>vaspers the grate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lovely desecration of a filthy cloth fit only for wiping a butt.

We must destroy, mock, and humiliate every symbol of illegit power and misanthropy. Persecuting these symbols strikes at the core of the evil they represent.

The Coffinederate Flag that flogs a race into subjection is to be abused and burned at every opportunity. I have done some Confetti-erate flag desecration rituals on my Justin.tv channel.

Keep up the good work.

Too didactic? Oh please. It&#039;s a clever title and it works with the sight to form one complete desecration act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lovely desecration of a filthy cloth fit only for wiping a butt.</p>
<p>We must destroy, mock, and humiliate every symbol of illegit power and misanthropy. Persecuting these symbols strikes at the core of the evil they represent.</p>
<p>The Coffinederate Flag that flogs a race into subjection is to be abused and burned at every opportunity. I have done some Confetti-erate flag desecration rituals on my Justin.tv channel.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
<p>Too didactic? Oh please. It&#8217;s a clever title and it works with the sight to form one complete desecration act.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 03:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this article by an angry black woman as honest.  She does not persecute the Confederate flag on a whole sale basis as some do.  If the flag used in Simms art had been an American flag we would have the same type of emotional response from citizens as this display did from some more historical savvy southerners.  Only marginal artist need rely on such gimmicks.

The Confederate flag does not have a government to defend it or to move into the future.  Let’s keep in mind that cotton did not grow in the north and that the African slave shipping  was from ALL northern ports.

If you asked in 1861 what the Mexicans, Indians, or migrant Chinese what they thought of the American flag we wouldn’t be surprised.  It is interesting that the Confederate Constitution was nearly the same as the United States Constitution and that they wanted to take the stars and stripes as well but the north already had it.  In further, we must note that the newly freed black men were more than happy to be formed into regiments of  buffalo soldiers and help enslave, rape, and annihilate the western Indians.

When I see the Confederate flag I see it as a symbol of southern pride and smaller centralized government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this article by an angry black woman as honest.  She does not persecute the Confederate flag on a whole sale basis as some do.  If the flag used in Simms art had been an American flag we would have the same type of emotional response from citizens as this display did from some more historical savvy southerners.  Only marginal artist need rely on such gimmicks.</p>
<p>The Confederate flag does not have a government to defend it or to move into the future.  Let’s keep in mind that cotton did not grow in the north and that the African slave shipping  was from ALL northern ports.</p>
<p>If you asked in 1861 what the Mexicans, Indians, or migrant Chinese what they thought of the American flag we wouldn’t be surprised.  It is interesting that the Confederate Constitution was nearly the same as the United States Constitution and that they wanted to take the stars and stripes as well but the north already had it.  In further, we must note that the newly freed black men were more than happy to be formed into regiments of  buffalo soldiers and help enslave, rape, and annihilate the western Indians.</p>
<p>When I see the Confederate flag I see it as a symbol of southern pride and smaller centralized government.</p>
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		<title>By: quinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here here!  It is wonderful to hear from another angry white woman from Florida and to know that not ALL of us were jaded with the good ole boy dumbass mentality that was given to us growing up!!  I loved this piece of art!  I am still in awe of this and also of Dread Scott&#039;s work, not just his american flag piece, but ALL of it.  It speaks of what is STILL going on in our society - our world is crying for equality but nobody seems to be listening to the nice and politically correct requests... something like this gets listened to.
The sight of a confederate flag turns my stomach, there is no way that I can make up for what some of my ancestors did (some of my ancestors were Irish slaves, but I am sure that even some of them participated in the racism prevelant in that day), the others were good ole german mississippi boys that i KNOW participated and while I cannot change that, I can move forward with my own actions and the actions of my children... part of that is respecting and supporting work like this.
Bravo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here here!  It is wonderful to hear from another angry white woman from Florida and to know that not ALL of us were jaded with the good ole boy dumbass mentality that was given to us growing up!!  I loved this piece of art!  I am still in awe of this and also of Dread Scott&#8217;s work, not just his american flag piece, but ALL of it.  It speaks of what is STILL going on in our society &#8211; our world is crying for equality but nobody seems to be listening to the nice and politically correct requests&#8230; something like this gets listened to.<br />
The sight of a confederate flag turns my stomach, there is no way that I can make up for what some of my ancestors did (some of my ancestors were Irish slaves, but I am sure that even some of them participated in the racism prevelant in that day), the others were good ole german mississippi boys that i KNOW participated and while I cannot change that, I can move forward with my own actions and the actions of my children&#8230; part of that is respecting and supporting work like this.<br />
Bravo!</p>
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		<title>By: Angel H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angel H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 19:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;cranial rectal inversion&quot;

I love you! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;cranial rectal inversion&#8221;</p>
<p>I love you! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 16:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I reside in Wakulla county, Florida just south of Tallahassee.

We are constantly subjected to the remarks of Robert Hurst and his cohorts.

Hurst writes letters to our local paper, writes a column for a monthly publication, Wakulla Area Times, titled The Confederate Journal. The kindest comment I can make about Hurst would be that he suffers from a severe case of cranial rectal inversion.

It is my opinion that Hurst is a racist hiding behind his beloved Confederate flag. He and his group are not promoting Southern heritage, rather they are promoting hatred and bigotry.

Recently, our community raised funds for a monument to pay tribute to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., the monument was placed on our courthouse lawn and dedicated just a few weeks ago. It was a time of great pride for many of us.

The following week some imbicile wrote to our paper whining that they wished to have a monument erected to Robert E. Lee. He was unable to convey his request without taking verbal shots at the NAACP, Christian Coalition, and Dr. King.

I also had the pleasure of recieving a threatning phone call as I had donated money to erect the monument to Dr. King. I won&#039;t repeat the words used but I will say this, I was told I would be taught a lesson.

You see, I&#039;m an angry white woman who grew up in the 60&#039;s. What &quot;lesson&quot; are these people going to teach me? None.

I enjoyed the Sims exhibit, his message was clear and 100% on the money. I only wish he&#039;d put Billie Holiday&#039;s rendition of Strange Fruit in the&quot; proper way to hang a Confederate flag.&quot;

What sickens me the most was reading Florida Statute 256.051 which offers full protection of the law to the Confederate flag and all other emblems of the Confederate States as well as ALL military and naval forces...

Just consider me an old white woman who is sick and tired of hatred and the nonsense that goes with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reside in Wakulla county, Florida just south of Tallahassee.</p>
<p>We are constantly subjected to the remarks of Robert Hurst and his cohorts.</p>
<p>Hurst writes letters to our local paper, writes a column for a monthly publication, Wakulla Area Times, titled The Confederate Journal. The kindest comment I can make about Hurst would be that he suffers from a severe case of cranial rectal inversion.</p>
<p>It is my opinion that Hurst is a racist hiding behind his beloved Confederate flag. He and his group are not promoting Southern heritage, rather they are promoting hatred and bigotry.</p>
<p>Recently, our community raised funds for a monument to pay tribute to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., the monument was placed on our courthouse lawn and dedicated just a few weeks ago. It was a time of great pride for many of us.</p>
<p>The following week some imbicile wrote to our paper whining that they wished to have a monument erected to Robert E. Lee. He was unable to convey his request without taking verbal shots at the NAACP, Christian Coalition, and Dr. King.</p>
<p>I also had the pleasure of recieving a threatning phone call as I had donated money to erect the monument to Dr. King. I won&#8217;t repeat the words used but I will say this, I was told I would be taught a lesson.</p>
<p>You see, I&#8217;m an angry white woman who grew up in the 60&#8242;s. What &#8220;lesson&#8221; are these people going to teach me? None.</p>
<p>I enjoyed the Sims exhibit, his message was clear and 100% on the money. I only wish he&#8217;d put Billie Holiday&#8217;s rendition of Strange Fruit in the&#8221; proper way to hang a Confederate flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>What sickens me the most was reading Florida Statute 256.051 which offers full protection of the law to the Confederate flag and all other emblems of the Confederate States as well as ALL military and naval forces&#8230;</p>
<p>Just consider me an old white woman who is sick and tired of hatred and the nonsense that goes with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Candice Hartman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candice Hartman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, obviously alot of Americans do not realize that this is not a big deal. The title John chose just makes the piece stronger and more effective in the point he is trying to prove. On one hand, yes, this flag represents a chunk of history and culture we cannot forget. However, it is also seen as a very offending and racist item. John Sims had every justification in doing this. If people today can still openly participate in the KKK and perform acts of cruel prejudice, why can&#039;t an artist make a statement about the way he feels his culture has been treated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, obviously alot of Americans do not realize that this is not a big deal. The title John chose just makes the piece stronger and more effective in the point he is trying to prove. On one hand, yes, this flag represents a chunk of history and culture we cannot forget. However, it is also seen as a very offending and racist item. John Sims had every justification in doing this. If people today can still openly participate in the KKK and perform acts of cruel prejudice, why can&#8217;t an artist make a statement about the way he feels his culture has been treated?</p>
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